BSRSteve Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jaxivision said: This DOTC is different? No, this is the same Elektronite Defender of the Crown. Just shipping from the US. Elektronite promises a lot of pent up demand, so we will see if it works out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980gamer Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 A learning fun release FIXED may do pretty well. As it is already a hard to find title. Spiker <100 is crazy. I would have guessed 250 or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSRSteve Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 I suppose "soon" is relative. It now appears we will not have Stadium Mud Buggies or PartyLine until the first of the year. joining them will be Mind Strike, modified to not require the ECS. Our copies of Defender of the Crown are dependent upon how long it takes the manuals to arrive from Thailand. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, BSRSteve said: Mind Strike, modified to not require the ECS. Mind Strike was my first ECS game - actually it was my only ECS game BITD. Can't wait for this release. I just hope my ECS version and the non-ECS version get along together... I'd hate to need to keep them separated 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinjinhawke Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I only recently got a CIB of Mind Strike and hooking up my ECS keeps me from playing it. Sounds like a must have. I’m grateful for the delay in the other two. Seems like there will be too many new games for me to purchase before the end of the year. Spreading them out gives me a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zendocon Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 That's good. Mind Strike ended up being a sleeper hit only because it was tweaked to require the ECS. If I recall, it didn't require the ECS when it was originally in development. I remember playing Board 47 and seeing the name "DAVE". Maybe the same thing can be done for Scooby Doo's Maze Chase, with the name references removed. Basically that game reminds me of Atari's Chase the Chuckwagon, but with a maze editor. Obviously we can't use the Chuckwagon name either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) How about World Series Baseball and Super NFL. Modified to remove the keyboard requirement and the sports trademarks. I thought Mind Strike used ecs ram for its computer AI. Edited November 18, 2020 by mr_me 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamse Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Good call on WSB. The LTO carts used for these have on-board ram I think. Maybe that is used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 For sure cartridge ram can emulate ecs ram, I think. Also has the title changed from Mind Strike to Mindstrike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zendocon Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 The only cartridges that had on-board RAM were USCF Chess and Triple Challenge (which included Chess), to my knowledge, not including the JLP indie releases. WSMLB has bankswitched ROM for the IntelliVoice sound samples, which wouldn't require the ECS. The only other thing you'd be losing is Aquarius tape drive support for saving/loading team rosters, pitcher/batter stats, and so on. Seeing how Mattel never did get a chance to release "new season" tapes, I guess that's academic at this point. As for Super NFL Football, I haven't played it enough to know what ECS features it needs. My wish is for somebody to create a reissue of the Music Keyboard, but that's probably too impractical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamse Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Yeah, the BSR releases are on JLP boards. At least, the first 3 were. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSRSteve Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 16 hours ago, mr_me said: How about World Series Baseball and Super NFL. Modified to remove the keyboard requirement and the sports trademarks. well, Super NFL Football is a home-brew. I don't know if it might contain some code Mattel or INTV code, but that game is not something I have access to or rights for. I don't know if we have good enough source for World Series Baseball to make that an easy task, or whether I will be able to do more of these going forward or not. At least the unlicensed name is already defined (Super Series Baseball) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I don't know if the Super NFL rom file that's floating around has been hacked. The old intellivisionlives web site lists it as unreleased rather than unfinished but Keith might not have known much about the game. People say the rom that was put on the homebrew cartridges is buggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intellivotion Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 if you say buggy this is what comes to my probably buggy mind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 8:55 AM, mr_me said: For sure cartridge ram can emulate ecs ram, I think. Also has the title changed from Mind Strike to Mindstrike? It changed to Mind S. Trike. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 On 11/19/2020 at 8:32 AM, JasonlikesINTV said: It changed to Mind S. Trike. Shhhhh! That was supposed to be Top S. Ecret! On 11/18/2020 at 6:09 AM, Bamse said: The LTO carts used for these have on-board ram I think. Maybe that is used? JLP boards, but yes. It uses the onboard RAM. Mind S. Trike (now that Jason's let the cat out of the bag) requires other modifications to make it work without ECS. For example, you can't leave the title screen without an ECS keyboard. That, and it has a command line interface rather than a menu. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargrdan Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Steve, is there a possibility to reissue Decathalon, Body Slam Wrestling, Mountain Madness under the BSR label since they are original non third party titles? What would it take for those titles to happen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Bouchard Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 22 hours ago, chargrdan said: Steve, is there a possibility to reissue Decathalon, Body Slam Wrestling, Mountain Madness under the BSR label since they are original non third party titles? What would it take for those titles to happen? I would also like to see these as well as other rereleases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargrdan Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) Jeff, I agree on seeing some more hard to find titles, but some of those have third party attachments to them which would make things a lot harder to produce. The ones I mentioned I believe (unless otherwise stated) are Intv exclusives, which hopefully would be less work (rights wise) to make happen. Edited December 5, 2020 by chargrdan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Bouchard Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 6 hours ago, chargrdan said: Jeff, I agree on seeing some more hard to find titles, but some of those have third party attachments to them which would make things a lot harder to produce. The ones I mentioned I believe (unless otherwise stated) are Intv exclusives, which hopefully would be less work (rights wise) to make happen. That’s true. I was hoping that ones without extra licenses could be rereleased and then maybe the ones with extra licenses could come later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) You mean Pole Position and Commando? Not sure if they own the code to Dig Dug. At these quantities, the cost of licenses will significantly add to the price of each cartridge. They'll end up being more expensive than the original cartridges. Edited December 5, 2020 by mr_me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Bouchard Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, mr_me said: You mean Pole Position and Commando? Not sure if they own the code to Dig Dug. At these quantities, the cost of licenses will significantly add to the price of each cartridge. They'll end up being more expensive than the original cartridges. Hopefully not but I can dream lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargrdan Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 yea, that's why I mentioned the games that Intv / Mattel put out....Pole Position, Dig Dug, Zaxxon, etc were all third party which as previously mentioned would cost too much to get permission or even if the the third party companies would even allow them to be done. I just hoped that the system exclusives could be obtained and worth doing....if enough of us request and actually follow through with the purchases so they don't get screwed on the cost and having stock just sitting around.....don't forget, they front the money to be made (boards, shells, overlays, manuals, boxes), I know it's not cheap for them to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Steve Jones Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 On 11/18/2020 at 1:02 AM, BSRSteve said: I suppose "soon" is relative. It now appears we will not have Stadium Mud Buggies or PartyLine until the first of the year. joining them will be Mind Strike, modified to not require the ECS. Our copies of Defender of the Crown are dependent upon how long it takes the manuals to arrive from Thailand. Any update as to when these 3 new BSR games will be going on sale? Any deal for buying all 3 at once like you did before? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSRSteve Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Jones said: Any update as to when these 3 new BSR games will be going on sale? Any deal for buying all 3 at once like you did before? I expect the boxes to arrive Monday, with overlays and cartridge labels by the end of the week. Not sure on the manuals and even less sure on the cartridge boards. Mind Strike will be later, as it has programming changes that have not been tested and changes to the manual. There will probably be some sort of deal, but I am not sure what it might be or when it might take effect. But it is at least two weeks out for us to be able to ship Stadium Mud Buggies and Party Line. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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