Crimefighter Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) Unveiling -- https://twitch.tv/videos/620301469 Unfortunately the video stream freezes a lot. Edited May 14, 2020 by Crimefighter 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Another work of art by team Champ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaden (JRH) Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 NO WAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Well, "undoable"... unless you have an ARM coprocessor running on the cartridge doing much of the setup/processing. I think this is remarkably well done - and credit to John for a fantastic port. I hope people keep things in perspective, and continue to support the non-ARM programs with similar enthusiasm for their efforts. Edited May 15, 2020 by Andrew Davie 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimefighter Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Here is a far more watchable link - 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Cool, looks great. Who owns the rights to Robotron 2084 now? Champ Games isn't gonna run into copyright issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetick1 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Wow this looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 hours ago, roadrunner said: Cool, looks great. Who owns the rights to Robotron 2084 now? Champ Games isn't gonna run into copyright issues? Well he did change Galaga to Galagon. Between Spicewares Draconian and now Galagon unknowingly using Tandy Coco clone naming conventions, I suggest Robotack ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr SQL Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Andrew Davie said: Well, "undoable"... unless you have an ARM coprocessor running on the cartridge doing much of the setup/processing. I think this is remarkably well done - and credit to John for a fantastic port. I hope people keep things in perspective, and continue to support the non-ARM programs with similar enthusiasm for their efforts. Agree on the perspective - the ARM is running the gameloop and not just helping with the setup/processing which is more like one of the better Jag game where the more powerful processors are used instead of the 68K. It's fantastic for fans to have strong opinions about games, but no one should get carried defending ARM games so as to throw "gatekeeper troll" insults at the classic programmers like the ZeroPage show; consider programmers who wrote games in the 80's, including John, simply percieve this as a 32-bit game. The Atari Pong Developer Challenge was a good example on changing perspective in mainstream culture; all the 32-bit games in the show were considered Atari 2600 games based on the retro look and feel regardless of platform. Similarly, games we wrote in the 80's on contemporary systems are all concievably Atari 2600 games too because we strived for the look and feel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebloke Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Did anyone else wrongly guess Fortnite. Just kidding. It looks nice enough, certainly in the same vein of Champ Games usual successes. Its not a game I'm particularly attached to, I've always considered it a bit of a flashy mess of things going on, but I'm a huge fan of any form of demakes so certainly one I'll try out. I do get what people are saying regarding ARM doing heavy lifting, but its still cool. I can stick a cart in my unmodded atari console and it plays. But fortnite next yeah? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, Mikebloke said: But fortnite next yeah? It was already completed but Epic said no 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Wow... okay yes ARM but still... wow! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Mikebloke said: But fortnite next yeah? Is that an Intellivision game? Not familiar with that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy B. Coyote Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 I... oh my gosh I don't even know what to say! Seeing Robotron 2084 running on the Atari 2600 is absolutely nuts! I would have thought it was impossible, but there it is. This will be a day 1 purchase for me, without a doubt! On a related note, when it does get released I wonder if it would be possible for AtariAge to produce some heavy duty plastic CX-40 joystick couplers to bundle with it? Robotron really is one of those games you need twin sticks to play properly, and as nice as Edladdin's Super Twin 78 is I can't see most folks shelling out close to $200 for a dedicated twin stick controller, so a simple CX-40 joystick coupler would be a great and affordable way for customers to get the most out of Robotron on the 2600. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 John and I would love to see some sort of CX-40 coupler offered. I've been thinking of different ideas for what might work. Temporarily, I've been using a slightly-modified Spy Hunter coupler, a pair of Star Fighter joysticks and Velcro straps to keep it all from moving around. But clearly, there are better ways. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Can't find the thread now, but someone here was/is 3D printing CX40 and CX24 joystick couplers. Good price and good quality too. Found one by Dan for CX24: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rastignac Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Note that Robotron existed on the Graduate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo930 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 "They said it couldn't be done..." and they were right. Great looking work though. Can't wait to actually play it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Wow this was always the "impossible" game for the VCS.. Amazing. I still play arcade Robotron relatively frequently on an emulation cab even today, so will be excited to give this a shot! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimefighter Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imstarryeyed Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Amazing Job Champ Games!! What a great looking game... As usual I must own a copy of this. Gotta get a twin stick for this and many other games! Thanks again for the great games you make, our community is so much better with you in it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_type2600 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) On 5/15/2020 at 8:20 AM, roadrunner said: Cool, looks great. Who owns the rights to Robotron 2084 now? Champ Games isn't gonna run into copyright issues? I understand conversion rights for the vast majority of pre-1985 arcade titles are now owned by the current Atari (including those games originally released by Parker and Coleco). At least for the classic Atari consoles. I'm not a lawyer but I would believe it's therefore not a matter of concern to the owner of the IP rights, but to the owner of the conversion rights. Back in the days it was Atari who sued Magnavox on K.C. Munchkin for the Odyssey2 and not Bally/Midway. Same case with Demon Attack, where Atari saw an infringement on its Phoenix conversion rights. Current Atari does only seem to bother if their own IPs for original Atari creations are used without license, since licensing is their main business model nowadays and they need to enforce their rights. Edited May 20, 2020 by r_type2600 typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 7 hours ago, r_type2600 said: I understand conversion rights for the vast majority of pre-1985 arcade titles are now owned by the current Atari (including those games originally released by Parker and Coleco). At least for the classic Atari consoles. I'm not a lawyer but I would believe it's therefore not a matter of concern to the owner of the IP rights, but to the owner of the conversion rights. Back in the days it was Atari who sued Magnavox on K.C. Munchkin for the Odyssey2 and not Bally/Midway. Same case with Demon Attack, where Atari saw an infringement on its Phoenix conversion rights. Current Atari does only seem to bother if their own IPs for original Atari creations are used without license, since licensing is their main business model nowadays and they need to enforce their rights. Good info, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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