sylabyss Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Has anyone ever tried to make a list of the Games found in the Caracas warehouse ? Back in 2006 i was trying to buy the whole room from a guy named Juan I was buying 100's motorodeo and ikari warriors plus others. I still have the pictures he sent of the Room in 2006 . There also turned out to be huge amount of software for computers too mostly Apple II, Atari 800 and Commodore stuff i ended up buying bunch from another guy in 2011. I know there were at least 93 titles available for the 2600 and about 21 for 5200 . Also Colecovision and Intellivision I think it would help with applying rarity to a few carts obviously Motorodeo and Ikari . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I still think hundreds of cib copies of 2600 NTSC Fatal Run and 2600 NTSC Klax will eventually turn up down there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Supergun said: I still think hundreds of cib copies of 2600 NTSC Fatal Run and 2600 NTSC Klax will eventually turn up down there. I'm hoping for red labeled BMX Air Master myself. I don't believe Fatal Run or Klax in NTSC format ever made it into production. As far as the games in SA, there are also a glut of Genesis and NES titles. The NES titles where the cause of the seizure in the first place as Nintendo dropped the hammer on the pirates down there. I guess the court just seized everything. That room you have pictured there is just the tip of the iceberg. I've seen forklift pallets upon forklift pallets of Ikari, Motorodeo, Xenophobe and others. All those 2600 titles are R1 maybe R2 at best just cause you have to wait for them to be shipped. Aside from that, the actual rarity is nil as you can get them any day of the week NOS for $10 and less. That was just the 2600 stuff. 5200 stuff in very large amounts I've seen Gremlins, Ballblazer & ROF you couldn't burn enough of them to restore a R3 status to any of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I agree with most of what you said there, but I feel your exaggerating just a little bit. Yes, Motorodeo and Ikari Warriors ended up being far more common then anyone initially thought, but not R1 or even R2. They aren’t Combats and Pac-Mans. I would certainly need to see more photos for better clarity. I mean, the 2 photos above are hardly conclusive. The first one is at a distance and out of focus, and the second one is of T16 games. And none of the sources down there who have been selling these items over the years have ever given full disclosure; and likely never will. It’s in there best interest to keep it vague as to how much they really have and of what. And don’t forget about the social and political atmosphere down there. Items that are “trapped” in that kind of an unstable environment are always at the brink of extinction. On any given day, someone could just seize them all and destroy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidD Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I kind of want some of those Turbo Grafx games in the picture... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Supergun said: I agree with most of what you said there, but I feel your exaggerating just a little bit. Yes, Motorodeo and Ikari Warriors ended up being far more common then anyone initially thought, but not R1 or even R2. They aren’t Combats and Pac-Mans. I would certainly need to see more photos for better clarity. I mean, the 2 photos above are hardly conclusive. The first one is at a distance and out of focus, and the second one is of T16 games. And none of the sources down there who have been selling these items over the years have ever given full disclosure; and likely never will. It’s in there best interest to keep it vague as to how much they really have and of what. And don’t forget about the social and political atmosphere down there. Items that are “trapped” in that kind of an unstable environment are always at the brink of extinction. On any given day, someone could just seize them all and destroy them. I've posted pictures of hundreds of 72 count boxes of them on pallets in the past (72 games in each, probably x10 on each pallet). I'm sure google will show the same pics or others of the massive piles I was given that where taken in a proper warehouse. There is more than one stash of these too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxel Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 On ebay UK, I can see a seller in Venezuala, selling some pristine stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballblaɀer Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 21 hours ago, sylabyss said: Has anyone ever tried to make a list of the Games found in the Caracas warehouse ? A couple of years ago I made a list for the 2600/5200 games being sold from Venezuela. I don't claim it to be necessarily complete, and additions/corrections are welcome. There's also more that could be done in the way of adding details (e.g. which Activision games are blue label carts, if any; which Atari carts are Atari Corp carts, which ones tend to be crushed and/or have other damage, etc.). I've copy/pasted a screenshot here for convenience. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylabyss Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Ok thats a start. These are the Actual pictures of games available to me in 2011 Just the Atari and Turbgfx not including Coleco, Intellivision,Nintendo or computers . This is from the main find and i think its probably close to what titles were found and available in mass quantities of over 100 to 200 each except some titles that were 20 copies or less. I was set up too buy a huge lot for alot of Money but became suspicious after my initial buy of a couple thousand dollars . Edited June 2, 2020 by sylabyss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylabyss Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Also the thought about multiple stashes . As i understood these were all in a Giant Warehouse and multiple parties bought Sections from the main Pile. 2006 was first contact for me from the original Stash . Some titles were probably in multiple thousands or more. That's why there still selling on Ebay 14 years later Venezuela 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 10:17 PM, sylabyss said: Also the thought about multiple stashes . As i understood these were all in a Giant Warehouse and multiple parties bought Sections from the main Pile. 2006 was first contact for me from the original Stash . Some titles were probably in multiple thousands or more. That's why there still selling on Ebay 14 years later Venezuela Agreed. I think most of the 2600 titles where to be had in the multiple thousands. Same for some of the 5200 titles. I have no clue about any real numbers to go with the TG16,Coleco, NES or Genesis games or how many of each where available. You don't see much from the TG16, NES or Genesis from that find listed on a regular basis compared to the 2600\5200 titles. I've seen some legit colecovision games but I've seen many more of the Cooper Black pirate carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylabyss Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share Posted June 4, 2020 Wait. Were any of the games found in Caracas PAL ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanlor Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Can these only be found on eBay? Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Fandango Jr Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) On 6/4/2020 at 7:20 AM, Evanlor said: Can these only be found on eBay? i have only seen them on ebay... both direct and resellers all over the place.. theres a very nice chap here-> https://www.ebay.com/usr/babel_vintage however the lockdown and challenges with flights from Venzuela make shipping a big big big challenge... not to mention customs etc Edited June 10, 2020 by Carlos Fandango Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanlor Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 12:43 PM, Carlos Fandango Jr said: i have only seen them on ebay... both direct and resellers all over the place.. theres a very nice chap here-> https://www.ebay.com/usr/babel_vintage however the lockdown and challenges with flights from Venzuela make shipping a big big big challenge... not to mention customs etc Thank you for letting me know and for the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 5/31/2020 at 11:09 PM, Supergun said: I still think hundreds of cib copies of 2600 NTSC Fatal Run and 2600 NTSC Klax will eventually turn up down there. I´ve searched the wharehouse and no luck with those, sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 5/31/2020 at 11:27 PM, Shawn said: I'm hoping for red labeled BMX Air Master myself. I don't believe Fatal Run or Klax in NTSC format ever made it into production. As far as the games in SA, there are also a glut of Genesis and NES titles. The NES titles where the cause of the seizure in the first place as Nintendo dropped the hammer on the pirates down there. I guess the court just seized everything. That room you have pictured there is just the tip of the iceberg. I've seen forklift pallets upon forklift pallets of Ikari, Motorodeo, Xenophobe and others. All those 2600 titles are R1 maybe R2 at best just cause you have to wait for them to be shipped. Aside from that, the actual rarity is nil as you can get them any day of the week NOS for $10 and less. That was just the 2600 stuff. 5200 stuff in very large amounts I've seen Gremlins, Ballblazer & ROF you couldn't burn enough of them to restore a R3 status to any of them. Sorry, not a single one Red Bmx, very few original Nes and Genesis, but a lot of bootlegs for those. The legal battle with nintendo was for the Use of "Nintendo Ca de Venezuela" court seized only few games displayed in stores, never went to warehouses. there was not large quantities of 5200, and some titles more than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 6/4/2020 at 2:20 AM, Evanlor said: Can these only be found on eBay? Evan None with the exeption of a Gold Mine game from Spectravideo. PAL is useless in Venezuela. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade-N-Games Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Hi everyone. I wanted to bump a little older post about these games and put a few more eyes on some research I have done to make sure its correct. I did my best to add to a few more titles that have been found and the exact variant for the games found was my main point in this update. Please let me know if you have a revision or update to add. Planet Patrol was a question. Maybe only a small amount found? Atari 2600 Adventures of Tron- White Stripes, Made in Singapore Air Raiders- White Stripes, Made in Singapore Asteroids- Glue Hang-tab Flap 1981 Printed in USA Astroblast- Silver Stripes Basketball- {Gray Box}- 1988 Atari Corp Made & Printed in Hong Kong Battlezone- 1987 Atari Corp, Full Art, Notch Lid, Made in Taiwan and/or Red Stripe, Locking Notch Lid, Multi Language Box Back BMX Airmaster {TNT}- Red Box , Notch Lid Breakout {international}- Orange Box, Standard Flip Lid, Multi Language Back, 1987 Atari Corp. Printed in Hong Kong California Games- Standard box Carnival- Coleco Standard Art without Duck Centipede- 1988 Atari Corp Silver Box, Multi Language Back, Circus Atari -- Purple , Multi Language Back, 1986 Atari Corp. Made & Printed in Hong Kong Commando- Activision Green Box, Notch Flap Cosmic Ark- Standard Silver Slide tray with “New” Banner, Picture Label, Rev -A Crystal Castles- Silver Box, 1988 Atari Corp, Printed & Made in Hong Kong Dark Chambers- Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, Made & Printed in Hong Kong Defender 2—Red Box , 1988 Atari Corp., Printed and made in Hong Kong Demon Attack- Without “New” Banner, Rev C, Printed in USA Desert Falcon- 1988 Atari Corp. Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, Made in Hong Kong Dig Dug- Silver Box, 1988 Atari Corp, Printed in Hong Kong Donkey Kong- 1988 Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, Made & Printed Hong Kong ET- No Shrink wrap Silver Box, Glue Hang-tab Flap, 1982 Football {Realsports Soccer}- Not Sure what version Galaxian -1987 Silver Box, Red Stripe, Atari Corp Gravitar- 1988 Atari Corp Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, Printed in Hong Kong Ice Hockey- 1981 Dark Blue Box, UPC Bottom Flap, Printed in USA Ikari Warriors- Red box, Notch Lid, Printed in Hong Kong, Made in China Joust- 1983 Silver Box, Full Art, Locking Notch Lid Jr Pac-man- 1988 Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, Made & Printed in Hong Kong Kangaroo- 1988 Silver Box Red Stripe, Multi Language Box Back, Standard Flip Lid Kung Fu Master- 1987 Black Box, Notch Lid Lock N Chase- Telegames USA, Silver Stripes, Notch Flap Mario Bros. - 1988 Silver Box, Red Stripe, Standard Flip Lid, Made in Hong Kong Midnight Magic- 1988 Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, Printed & Made in Hong Kong Millipede- 1987 Atari Corp. Silver Box, Full Art, Standard Flip Lid Missile Command- {International},- Multi Language Back, 1987 Atari Corp, Printed in Taiwan Moon Patrol- 1987 Silver Box, Red Stripe, Notch Lid, Multi Language Box Back Motorodeo- Red Box, 1990 Atari Corp, Printed in Hong Kong, Made in China Mouse Trap- Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, 1988 Atari Corp. Printed in Hong Kong Ms Pac Man- Silver Box, Multi language Back, 1988 Atari Corp, Made in Hong Kong Off the Wall- 1989 Red Box, Notch Lid, Printed in Hong Kong, Made In China Pete Rose Baseball- 1989 Green Box, Notch lid Phoenix- 1982 Siler Box, Notch lid, Made in USA Pole Position- 1987 Silver Box, Full Art, Notch Lid, Printed in Hong Kong/ Made in China Radar Lock- 1989 Red Box, Notch Lid, Made in China Raiders of the Lost Ark- 1982 SIlver Box, No Shrink-wrap, Glue Hang-tab Flap, Made in USA Realsports Baseball- 1988 Atari Corp., Silver Box, Flip Lid Made & Printed in Hong Kong Realsports Boxing-1987 Atari Corp, Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, Printed in Hong Kong Realsports Tennis- 1987 Atari Corp, Silver Box, Standard Flip Lid, Made in Hong Kong Realsports Volleyball- {Gray Box} - 1988 Atari Corp,Standard Flip Lid, Made & Printed in Hong Kong River Raid- UPC bottom Flap- Late Release, will have Blue text label cart inside Road Runner- 1989 Red Box, Notch Lid, “New” Front lower corner, Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China Robot Tank- Late Release "Not for Use 7800" Sticker , Notch Lid, Printed in USA, Secret Quest- 1989 Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, Made & Printed in Hong Kong Skateboarding – 1987 White Box, Standard Flip Lid, "Distributed by Activision" Sticker Skiing- Activision Late Release, UPC Bottom Flap, Printed in USA, Blue Text Label cart inside Solaris- Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, Printed in Hong Kong Space Attack- 1982, Silver Stripes Space Invaders- Red Box 1988 Atari Corp, Made & Printed in Hong Kong Spider Fighter- Activision, Notch lid Spider-Man- 1982, two-piece box Sprintmaster- Red Box Standard Flip Lid, Made & Printed in Hong Kong Star Raiders- Big Box International edition printing Summer Games— 1984, Standard Black Box, Taller than most Atari Game Super Baseball- Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, Made & Printed in Hong Kong Super Breakout- 1987 Atari Corp., Orange Box, Flip Lid, Multi Language Back, Printed in Hong Kong Super Challenge Baseball- not sure what one Title Match Pro Wrestling- 1987, Black Box, Notch lid Tron Joystick, Bulk Packing just the controllers Tron Deadly Discs- White Stripes, Made in Singapore Vanguard- 1988, Silver Box, Red Stripe, Multi language Back, Standard Flip Lid Venture- Red Box, Standard Flip Lid, 1988 Atari Corp, Printed & Made in Hong Kong Xenophobe- 1988 Red Box, Notch Lid, Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China Yars Revenge-1981, Orange, Glue Hang-tab Flap, Printed in USA, Comic Book inside Are we sure of Planet Patrol being on this list? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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