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28.5 watt ColecoVision compatible power supply (The best quality PS every made for the ColecoVision)

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40 minutes ago, HDTV1080P said:

If there was enough demand,  worldwide distributors for the 28.5 Watt ColecoVision power supply could be created to save on postage costs

 

 

The ColecoVision videogame system back in the 1982-1985 was very popular in the United States of America. Also the ColecoVision videogame system was very popular in the country of Canada. Both the United States and Canada ColecoVision’s were exactly the same in terms of NTSC 120 volt hardware and only the retail box and manuals were a little different. Also Europe had a PAL 220 volt CoelcoVision, and some countries had a SECAM versions of the ColecoVision. There were over 2 million ColecoVision systems sold worldwide.

Many people from around the world complain about the postage that it costs to ship the Mean Well 28.5 watt power supply to their home country.

 

Currently all the Amazon and EBAY dealers that offer this ColecoVision compatible power supply from Mean Well, live in the United States, and it makes the postage cost to ship the power supply Internationally more expensive. However, there is a solution. This Mean Well 28.5 Watt power supply is offered all around the world and one can purchase the power supply directly from a authorized Mean Well distributor in their country as mentioned in detail in the following post.

https://atariage.com/forums/topic/308050-285-watt-colecovision-compatible-power-supply-the-best-quality-ps-every-made-for-the-colecovision/?do=findComment&comment=4594560

 

Then all one needs to do is purchase the ColecoVision compatible power cord with included waterproof sticker, that attaches to the 28.5 Watt Mean Well power supply. It costs a lot less in postage to ship the power cord internationally when compared to shipping the power supply and power cord together. Also if anyone wanted to resell the Mean Well 28.5 watt ColecoVision compatible power supply in their country that they live in, then one could fit a QTY of 20 or more ColecoVision compatible power cords in a flat rate priority mail box to ship to a another country.

So my point is that since the Mean Well 28.5 Watt power supply is offered directly from authorized Mean Well distributors in just about any country on the planet earth, then all one needs to do is purchase the CoelcoVision power cord that was engineered in the United States and made in China to get a working ColecoVision power supply. If one is part of a ColecoVision club in Europe or Australia they might want to purchase a QTY of 20 ColecoVision power cords and have them shipped in a flat rate box. This would greatly reduce the shipping cost if only the power cord is purchased for international shipping.    

Unfortunately when I looked into doing this exact thing the shipping of just the Colecovision cable was atrocious too.

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44 minutes ago, zaphro72 said:

Unfortunately when I looked into doing this exact thing the shipping of just the Colecovision cable was atrocious too.

I will use EBAY as a example.

I am not able to see the prices that EBAY is charging people with EBAY’s Global shipping program. The $9.99 that is charged for priority mail shipping to the EBAY shipping center in Kentucky is the cheapest shipping method for the power supply and cable since the shipping weight is around 1 pound and 8 oz. From there EBAY ships the product to anywhere in the world with the global shipping program.

What makes this power supply compatible with the ColecoVision is the custom power cord and the sticker that goes on top of the Mean Well power supply. If one were to purchase the Mean Well power supply from an authorized Mean Well dealer in their own country, then one could just purchase the power cord itself on EBAY. If one ships the power cord by first class mail instead of priority mail then it would only cost around $3.00 to ship to the Kentucky EBAY Global shipping center. Then EBAY would charge their Global shipping price.

There is not much more one can do if the EBAY and Amazon interface is used, the power supply has to be shipped priority mail because of the weight. The cable could be shipped first class mail instead of priority mail.

A cheaper solution would be for someone to request a PAYPAL invoice directly so that Amazon and EBAY can be bypassed (but the request cannot be made using Amazon and EBAY's internal email communication system, but would need to be a third party message system similair to what ATARIAGE website uses for communications).

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I just verified that a QTY of 20 ColecoVision power cables will fit in one Priority Mail International Padded Flat Rate Envelope. The Post Office charges $26.90 for Canada flat rate envelope and $37.45 for Switzerland. That means that if one charged $14.99 for each ColecoVision power cable. Then to deliver a QTY of 20 to Canada would be a total cost of around $326.70 ($16.34 for each power cable) and the Switzerland price would be a total cost of $337.25 ($16.86 for each power cable).  Plus there is custom and duty taxes that might be charged per the laws of ones country they live in. 

 

Shipping rates can be calculated at the following website. The reduced International dealer prices can be obtained by sending a private message using the ATARIAGE interface and requesting a PAYPAL invoice.

 

https://postcalc.usps.com/

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Canada information regarding power supply options

 

Here is a link to the local Mean Well distributor located in Canada if one decides to just get the detachable plug in ColecoVision power cord only from the United States:

https://www.simcona.ca/

 

United States customers pay around $49.99 plus $9.99 shipping for the 28.5 Watt ColecoVision Power Supply with power cord. However, I see what some people are complaining about when it comes to International shipping rates when it comes to geographical close country like Canada. Canada gets charged $49.99 for the power supply like everyone else in the world, but the cheapest shipping for a 1 pound 8 oz package to Canada by priority mail is $43.25. $43.25 shipping is almost the price of one power supply, so total price to Canada for one power supply is $93.24 after shipping. Now if one wanted two power supplies the price is a little bit cheaper to Canada. Each power supply with cable is going to cost $49.99 each plus to mail around 3 pounds to Canada will cost $46.35 for priority mail shipping. Total cost after shipping for two power supplies would be $146.33 ($73.17 for each power supply including shipping).

 

One can fit a total of 6 power supplies with cables in a Priority mail medium International flat rate box, and the shipping charge for a medium International flat rate box to Canada is $51.55. Plus one can give a 10% discount off the power supply when buying in QTY of 6 ($45 for each power supply). Therefore, total delivery cost on 6 power supplies to Canada would be $321.55 ($53.59 for each power supply after shipping). The power supplies could be sold in Canada on EBAY, Amazon, etc. Other countries like Europe, and Australia would have a little bit higher shipping rates.

 

If one lives around the Canadian border, like Niagara falls city in Ontario Canada and they purchase a lot of items from companies in the United States. They might want to consider renting a Post Office box for one year from the Post Office in Niagara Falls New York or another bordering USA city where they are close too. Then once a month or a few times a year they could pick up packages right across the border in the United States and get charged for US postage rates instead of very expensive international postage rates. Canada is a big country and most people do not live close enough to the USA boarder to justify the drive to the closes Post Office. But renting a Post Office box would save a lot of money if one is a few miles from the USA boarder.     

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On 10/6/2020 at 4:41 PM, HDTV1080P said:

Thanks for the post Ruggers Customs. The 28.5 Watt Mean Well power supply works perfectly fine on all unmodified ColecoVision videogame systems if the original RF modulator is working fine. Also the 28.5 Watt Mean Well power supply works perfectly fine on most modified third party ColecoVision videogame systems that had internal hardware modifications. However, when one makes internal third party hardware modifications to their ColecoVision, if the quality of the internal modification adds EMI/RFI noise to the ColecoVision motherboard, that is where the interference picture quality issues can occur from internal EMI/RFI noise on the ColecoVision motherboard due to third party shielding issues. Some of the third party hardware modifications might be trying to draw more power from the original ColecoVison power supply and the Col USB, but since the Col USB can not push more then 17 watts of power the interference issue would not show up. But since the Mean Well 28.5 watt ColecoVision compatible power supply is capable of outputting 28.5 Watts of power if the attached ColecoVision requests that much power, then some third party hardware modifications might be causing a bigger power drain and any poor quality EMI/RFI shielding issues on the third party modification might cause picture quality issues.

 

Both the 28.5 watt Mean Well power supply and the high-end ColecoVision power cable that is bundled with the power supply, is designed to eliminate, or greatly reduce EMI/RFI interference coming from the power supply. However it sounds like on certain third party hardware modifications to the ColecoVision motherboard, that those third party modifications might need better shielding to reduce EMI/RFI noise on the ColecoVision motherboard.  

    

I do not like the 46.5 Watt Mean Well GP50A13A-R1B power supply because of the short circuit protection is good for only one short between the 5v and 12 volt rail, but if one is having troubles with the third party hardware modification then they could try the 46.5 Watt Mean Well power supply to see if there is any picture quality differences. My guess would be the same picture quality problem and perhaps a worse picture quality problem if the third party modification is requesting a draw of 46.5 watts instead of 28.5 watts. In the ideal world third party video modifictions soldered on the CoelcoVision motherboard would not be needed if someone would develop a external graphics card with SGM capability that plugs in the front expansion port. Then with a micro HDMI jack on the right side, the external expansion module would disable the VDP when a HDMI cable is connected and use a new VDP that offers high quality HDMI just like a ColecoVison emulator on a Windows PC. Then people would not need to do all kinds of third party surgery to the ColecoVision motherboard to get better video quality.  

 

Amazon and EBAY dealers have a 60 day return policy on the 28.5 Watt Mean Well ColecoVision compatible power supply. So far no one has requested to return one since they love the results. However if in some rare instant that some third party modifications are generating EMI/RFI interference issues from poor shielding issues with the third party modification, then one can always return the power supply within 60 days. Also Mean Well offers a 3 year warranty on the power supply.

The TMS-RGB is a top quality mod board.  There's nothing wrong with the quality, it doesn't need any additional shielding and the power draw is minimal.  You're selling a switching power supply for a system that's already noisy as hell to begin with.  There's going to be a certain amount of noise in any switching power supply compared to a linear power supply. 

 

Come on man...

 

Have you broke out the oscilloscope and looked at the power rails?  How many different colecovision revision mother boards have you tested it on?

 

I did try to bring this to your attention over 6 weeks ago but you blew me off with your general troubleshooting response.  

 

I didn't write what I did to shit all over your product.  There's some issues present that I feel you should further investigate if you're going to advertise it as the "The best quality PS ever made for the ColecoVision".  That's all, I have nothing else to say.  Good luck with your power supply.

 

 

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On 10/4/2020 at 4:06 AM, Ruggers Customs said:

So Meanwell with RF is good.  Meanwell with composite is good.  Meanwell with TMS-RGB is good through the Framemeister and OSSC.  Meanwell with TMS-RGB and composite video wired as sync for the Rad 2x appears to be bad for now. 
 

All of the Mean issues listed above aren't present in a good old fashoned OEM linear psu or the Colusb.

In my case, composite is bad.  Honestly I think RF is bad too.  In terms of what he could be testing, supposedly on several systems though not specific on revisions.  Unfortunately, these old systems need far better tolerances due to both age and all the mods most of us have used on them.  It's just annoying because I have to return it, and the Col-USB is unavailable again.

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29 minutes ago, Greg2600 said:

In my case, composite is bad.  Honestly I think RF is bad too.  In terms of what he could be testing, supposedly on several systems though not specific on revisions.  Unfortunately, these old systems need far better tolerances due to both age and all the mods most of us have used on them.  It's just annoying because I have to return it, and the Col-USB is unavailable again.

Are you without a power supply completely?

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4 hours ago, Ruggers Customs said:

Are you without a power supply completely?

Oh, no no, I have an old brick that works fine (for now), and one that has gone bad.  It's just a pain to use, and due to the system's design, even a partially faulty PSU negatively effects the CV worse than almost any other console.  So I wanted a modern replacement.  It's possible this particular Mean Well should simply be replaced with another, and I'd have no issues.  I just don't want to pay to ship it back and forth to MN, the postal costs are astronomical these days.

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