Does Jaguar have 3d geometry ? 3D Graphic GPU?

[Peter Cernuska]

On 9/21/2021 at 11:46 PM, sd32 said:

Could you mention where you read that? I could use a good laugh ?.... sound like something Gorf would say back on his day

You can find it in Retro Gamer 26 page 50:

 

https://issuu.com/thiagoaugusto60/docs/retrogamer.issue.026/2?ff

 

I also put some screenshots on the bottom and into attachment.

 

Plus they said somewhere else that Jag could have tripled the texture fillrate performance but due bad design it wasted four cycles out of six just by idling.
 

Maybe its even mentioned in this article where they talking about 'stalling all the time' issue.

 

Plus Carmack said in an article that can't find right now that if they would drop 68k chip and add some cache for GPU then it would be much more powerful system or something along those lines.

 

 

[alucardx01]

On 9/21/2021 at 5:40 PM, sd32 said:

Stuff like that, and this:

To be fair, he was talking mostly about 2d, colors on screen and processing speed

 

On this one he says that a Jaguar with a SH2 or MIPS3000 cpu instead of the Motorola, would crush the Saturn and Playstation:

 

I don't think he really ventured into crazy territory with his ideas. As far as 2D goes I lean toward him being right, but I'm no expert so that is an opinion and not conclusive of anything. If you start putting processors from the other two systems into the Jag and adding RAM where the system needs it, well yeah, I'd suspect your performance could see a dramatic increase. As dramatic as Gorf claimed? We don't know. Thanks for digging up those posts though, it never hurts to be able to reference the original words of the posts being discussed.

[JoeMatt(Provenance)]

Someone asked for this recently in my Virtual Jaguar port https://github.com/libretro/virtualjaguar-libretro/issues/74

 

I already assumed this was a non-starter, this thread pretty much confirmed that GPU high level emu is impractical.

The blitter and other code on the other hand could be better done with SIMD at least.

[oky2000]

You are hardly going to get an unbiased opinion about the Jaguar in the Jaguar section of Atariage.com on any aspect of the system. It is fashionable to knock the Jaguar software library for sure in general retro gaming forums I admit. People also get upset to find out they are not a connoisseur of gaming. This applies as much to all the game reviewers at the time [any machine format since the 1970s] paid by magazines to provide content as it does to the general public of you and me with differing opinions.

 

I'm sure there is a link between all that somewhere  

 

I was shocked by the response from google that only 150,000 consoles were sold. Is that actually true or some sort of wonkypedia cockup? Explains the exorbitant cost of ownership now though I guess.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[+CyranoJ]

18 minutes ago, oky2000 said:

You are hardly going to get an unbiased opinion about the Jaguar in the Jaguar section of Atariage.com on any aspect of the system.

 

Because the people who generally have no clue what they are talking about and can't code themselves continually try to claim that the things said by the people who can do these things are wrong.

[oky2000]

6 hours ago, CyranoJ said:

 

Because the people who generally have no clue what they are talking about and can't code themselves continually try to claim that the things said by the people who can do these things are wrong.

I am really talking about the quality of game design and I am not here to change the minds of any people on that subject either.

 

 

 

[Gunther]

Battlesphere managed it fine.