carlsson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 ^^ Nothing that I've noticed, and I play it on my PAL 130XE that has showcased issues before with other games. Perhaps try another joystick? (remember my odd issue with L.A. SWAT that disappeared when I swapped joystick) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Rookie 6 Laps: Kyalami 3:27 Having forgotten what the flag man does, I immedately sent my car back to the track at the first pit stop and during the second I barely avoided overfilling had to go back to remove the tire changing crew. As clever as this was in the 1980s it clearly hasn't kept up with developments in F1 racing.... Or does that pit stop routine just feel more tedious to my 2020 self than to my 1985 teenage racing rookie. Given how little I am allowed to work these days I am not sure if I don't prefer work to playing Pitstop. Had a quick go at Pitstop II to see if it's better but while it certainly looks better it feels a bit spongy, especially so during the Pitstops (although the split-screen pitstop is quite impressive). The sound feels even more like a souped-up sewing machine (maybe 2-stroke racing cars). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Nowadays I'm not sure refueling is even allowed in F1. A mistake I tend to do is to click on the driver to get away from the pitstop, which is how it works in P2 which got rid of one tire guy and the flag man. I still wonder how @therealbountybob will score this round. One possible type of score would be 1/6 HSC points for each completed combination of difficulty, number of laps and course (max 9 HSC points), plus 1/2 HSC point for the best time on each course on the three main settings Rookie 3 laps, Semi-Pro 9 laps and Pro 9 laps (max 9 HSC points). Edited July 1, 2020 by carlsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThunder Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 We could copy F1, but pro rata it done a bit ? Points are awarded to drivers based on where they finish in a race. The winner receives 25 points, the second-place finisher 18 points, with 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2 and 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Rookie 6 Laps: Jarama 3:56 Had a peek at Pole Position in between. When you qualify for e.g. 4th place and overtake all three cars that start in front of you, where in hell are the other cars on the track coming from ;)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThunder Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, slx said: Rookie 6 Laps: Jarama 3:56 Had a peek at Pole Position in between. When you qualify for e.g. 4th place and overtake all three cars that start in front of you, where in hell are the other cars on the track coming from ;)? Its based on the M25 in London https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M25_motorway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThunder Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) How about: 1st place on each race (rookie 3, 6 and 9 laps, semi pro 3,6,9 and pro 3,6,9) 4 points (theoretical 36 points) 2nd 3 points (27 points) 3rd 2 points (18 points) 4th to whatever number 1 point. (9 points) or 3 1st place 2 2nd 2 3rd 1 the rest. Edited July 2, 2020 by RedThunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 What is a "race" in this context? Every course (Le-Mans, Monaco etc) on its own or some kind of combination? We have 6 courses * 3 difficulty levels * 3 different number of laps = 54 combinations * 4 = max 216 points. That better not be HSC points, or otherwise it would be Game Over for everyone not participating in this round. I can agree with your idea to award temporary points like that, perhaps 10-6-4-3-2-1 points. Then those are summarized and converted into HSC points, just like we do with multiple games in one round otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) One type of combined scoring: Endurance points: 1 pt per played combination of course, difficulty and number of laps. RedThunder 54 pts carlsson 18 pts Deteacher 9 graywest 7 slx 5 Sikor 2 roadrunner 2 Points based on best times: Only counting the "competitive" courses = Rookie 3 Laps, Semi-Pro 9 Laps and Pro 9 Laps. Using the same scale as in Pitstop II: 1st place = 9 pts 2nd place = 6 pts 3rd place = 4 pts 4th place = 3 pts 5th place = 2 pts 6th place = 1 pt Monaco, 3 laps Rookie 1:43 carlsson 7 1:43 RedThunder 7 1:44 Sikor 3 1:44 slx 3 2:00 graywest 2 2:02 Deteacher 1 2:07 roadrunner 0 Le-Mans, 3 laps Rookie 1:13 RedThunder 9 1:14 Sikor 5 1:14 slx 5 1:15 carlsson 3 1:19 graywest 2 1:25 Deteacher 1 1:33 roadrunner 0 Kyalami, 3 laps Rookie 1:18 RedThunder 9 1:19 carlsson 6 1:25 graywest 4 1:29 Deteacher 3 Albi, 3 laps Rookie 1:08 RedThunder 9 1:09 carlsson 6 1:13 graywest 4 1:15 Deteacher 3 Jarama, 3 laps Rookie 1:38 carlsson 7 1:38 RedThunder 7 1:46 graywest 4 1:50 Deteacher 3 St. Jovite, 3 laps Rookie 1:19 RedThunder 9 1:21 carlsson 6 1:20 slx 4 1:31 Deteacher 3 1:32 graywest 2 Monaco, 9 laps Semi-Pro 6:23 RedThunder 9 6:43 carlsson 6 7:11 Deteacher 4 Le-Mans, 9 laps Semi-Pro 4:42 carlsson 9 4:43 RedThunder 6 Kyalami, 9 laps Semi-Pro 4:52 carlsson 9 5:03 RedThunder 6 Albi, 9 laps Semi-Pro 4:19 carlsson 9 4:20 Deteacher 6 5:06 RedThunder 4 Jarama, 9 laps Semi-Pro 4:50 Deteacher 9 6:05 carlsson 6 6:08 RedThunder 4 St. Jovite, 9 laps Semi-Pro 5:01 carlsson 9 5:06 RedThunder 6 Monaco, 9 laps Pro 7:22 carlsson 9 7:30 RedThunder 6 Le-Mans, 9 laps Pro 5:02 carlsson 9 5:28 RedThunder 6 Kyalami, 9 laps Pro 5:17 carlsson 9 5:35 RedThunder 6 Albi, 9 laps Pro 4:32 carlsson 9 5:23 RedThunder 6 Jarama, 9 laps Pro 6:55 carlsson 9 7:09 RedThunder 6 St. Jovite, 9 laps Pro 5:17 carlsson 9 6:40 RedThunder 6 It would give this summary: RedThunder 175 pts (54 4 4 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 7 7 9 9 9 9 9) = 12 HSC points carlsson 155 pts (18 3 6 6 6 6 6 7 7 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9) = 11 HSC points Deteacher 42 pts (9 1 1 3 3 3 3 4 6 9) = 10 HSC points graywest 25 pts (7 2 2 2 4 4 4) = 9 HSC points slx 17 pts (5 3 4 5) = 8 HSC points Sikor 10 pts (2 3 5) = 7 HSC points roadrunner 2 pts (2 0 0) = 6 HSC points Edited July 2, 2020 by carlsson 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 This has been a fun, although strange round with the confusion about which settings to use and how the scoring will turn out. I'd suggest more HSC players give it a go, at least a few 3 lap races to get onto the scoreboard. Last round we still had 16 participants, now we're currently down to 7. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I have to race a few more tracks Pitstop info and critic reviews https://www.mobygames.com/game/pitstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThunder Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 9:59 AM, carlsson said: This has been a fun, although strange round with the confusion about which settings to use and how the scoring will turn out. I'd suggest more HSC players give it a go, at least a few 3 lap races to get onto the scoreboard. Last round we still had 16 participants, now we're currently down to 7. IMO this is case for one vote only. Makes your game choice more considered. Fun round though. Even so, with the scoring complications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 Had a bash on 9lap pro grand circuit, first race went ok with 2 stops 4:51 then it crashed on 2nd circuit (I'm using OSA translator on my XE). Will try some of the 3 laps later! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 Laps Monaco Rookie 1:43 Semi 1:44 Pro 2:06 with one stop after blowing up the first time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 More times rookie 3 laps single Kyalami 1:34 Albi 1:20 Jarama 1:55 St. Jovite 1:39 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 OK carlsson you've done all the work so I'll leave it to you to close the round off and allocate the points! I'll start up the next round soon I have a hunch I know what it will be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 12:18 PM, therealbountybob said: Had a bash on 9lap pro grand circuit, first race went ok with 2 stops 4:51 I just realized that even on Grand Circuit, the order of the 6 races is randomized, just like the section of 3 courses is randomized on the Mini-Circuit. Would you happen to remember which course you successfully finished? Not that it matters that much, your time would be the fastest on all courses except Albi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, carlsson said: I just realized that even on Grand Circuit, the order of the 6 races is randomized, just like the section of 3 courses is randomized on the Mini-Circuit. Would you happen to remember which course you successfully finished? Not that it matters that much, your time would be the fastest on all courses except Albi. Sorry no I didn;t spot it, then it crashed on race 2. Probably 9 laps Pro is good for anthother time as you can do 3, 2 stops or 1 and a splash and dash in theory, not sure if you can nurse the fuel to make a 1 stop on lap 5, I ran out of fuel playing normally when trying this on my first go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Yes, I found that finishing a race with only 2 stops was challenging on Pro. Anyway, I think this is a fair summary of this round. Endurance points: 1 pt per played combination of course, difficulty and number of laps. Maximum 54 points. RedThunder 54 pts carlsson 18 pts Deteacher 9 graywest 7 roadrunner 6 slx 5 therealbountybob 4 Sikor 2 Race points: Only counting the "competitive" courses: Rookie 3 Laps, Semi-Pro 9 laps and Pro 9 laps. Using the same points system as in Pitstop II: 1st place = 9 pts 2nd place = 6 pts 3rd place = 4 pts 4th place = 3 pts 5th place = 2 pts 6th place = 1 pt Monaco, 3 laps Rookie 1:43 carlsson 6 1:43 RedThunder 6 1:43 therealbountybob 6 1:44 Sikor 3 1:44 slx 3 2:00 graywest 1 2:02 Deteacher 0 2:07 roadrunner 0 Le-Mans, 3 laps Rookie 1:13 RedThunder 9 1:14 Sikor 5 1:14 slx 5 1:15 carlsson 3 1:19 graywest 2 1:25 Deteacher 1 1:33 roadrunner 0 Kyalami, 3 laps Rookie 1:18 RedThunder 9 1:19 carlsson 6 1:25 graywest 4 1:29 Deteacher 3 1:34 roadrunner 2 Albi, 3 laps Rookie 1:08 RedThunder 9 1:09 carlsson 6 1:13 graywest 4 1:15 Deteacher 3 1:20 roadrunner 2 Jarama, 3 laps Rookie 1:38 carlsson 7 1:38 RedThunder 7 1:46 graywest 4 1:50 Deteacher 3 1:55 roadrunner 2 St. Jovite, 3 laps Rookie 1:19 RedThunder 9 1:21 carlsson 6 1:20 slx 4 1:31 Deteacher 3 1:32 graywest 2 1:39 roadrunner 1 Monaco, 9 laps Semi-Pro 6:23 RedThunder 9 6:43 carlsson 6 7:11 Deteacher 4 Le-Mans, 9 laps Semi-Pro 4:42 carlsson 9 4:43 RedThunder 6 Kyalami, 9 laps Semi-Pro 4:52 carlsson 9 5:03 RedThunder 6 Albi, 9 laps Semi-Pro 4:19 carlsson 9 4:20 Deteacher 6 5:06 RedThunder 4 Jarama, 9 laps Semi-Pro 4:50 Deteacher 9 6:05 carlsson 6 6:08 RedThunder 4 St. Jovite, 9 laps Semi-Pro 5:01 carlsson 9 5:06 RedThunder 6 Monaco, 9 laps Pro 7:22 carlsson 9 7:30 RedThunder 6 Le-Mans, 9 laps Pro 4:51 therealbountybob 9 5:02 carlsson 6 5:28 RedThunder 4 Kyalami, 9 laps Pro 5:17 carlsson 9 5:35 RedThunder 6 Albi, 9 laps Pro 4:32 carlsson 9 5:23 RedThunder 6 Jarama, 9 laps Pro 6:55 carlsson 9 7:09 RedThunder 6 St. Jovite, 9 laps Pro 5:17 carlsson 9 6:40 RedThunder 6 It gives this summary: 1. RedThunder 172 race points = 12 HSC points 2. carlsson 151 race points = 11 HSC points 3. Deteacher 41 race points = 10 HSC points 4. graywest 24 race points = 9 HSC points 5. therealbountybob 19 race points = 8 HSC points 6. slx 17 race points = 7 HSC points 7. roadrunner 13 race points = 6 HSC points 8. Sikor 10 race points = 5 HSC points 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Looks good to me. Thanks again to carlsson, he will be picking up a couple of extra bonus points for his efforts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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