ianoid Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I dumped a bunch of Romox ECPC carts, some of which may be WIPs or unreleased or available and you've seen this all before. I don't know. I have images of the carts, but they are 2mb each and failed to upload. Further analysis appreciated. Enjoy. @Rom Hunter A8 - Beat It Mar-9-86.bin A8 - Castles & Keys Final.bin A8 - Castles & Keys.bin A8 - Dancing Feats Dec 08 83.bin A8 - Flapper.bin A8 - Maniac master Mar-9-84.bin A8 - Porky's.bin A8 - Retrofire.bin A8 - Ripper 9-15-85.bin A8 - Topper.bin 8 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianoid Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Figured out that drag and drop wasn't working for the pictures. So here they are. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 This is just fantastic, you undug some long lost prototypes! Thanks SO MUCH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Castles and Keys is interesting - plays more like a demo of potential ideas than a game. Its pretty brutal on some of the screens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Both A8 - Maniac master Mar-9-84.bin and A8 - Beat It Mar-9-86.bin are Color Sounds. One plays Michael Jacksons Beat-It and the other plays Maniac by Michael Sembello One of the Castles & Keys is already known (be14c091) the Final is new. Retrofire requires OSb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 19 hours ago, Mr Robot said: One of the Castles & Keys is already known (be14c091) the Final is new. So are you saying that the existing rom for Castles & Keys is a WIP and this new one labeled FINAL is most likely the final version? Why are there WIP versions of games on ROMOX ECPC carts? Is it possible that some of these other titles that have dates are WIP versions of games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 No, all I'm saying is that one of the two Castles & Keys posted were already in my database so my scanner recognised it, according to my database I got that cart crc from Kr0tki's list and his list points to atarimania so I guess that cart is the same as the one there. I've not seen any of the other dumps before but I did find this exact list of carts in my searching so now I know who sold them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 21 hours ago, Goochman said: Castles and Keys is interesting - plays more like a demo of potential ideas than a game. Its pretty brutal on some of the screens! It's got some great ideas. It's like a cross between (a very rudimentary) Chip's Challenge crossed with Venture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Thank you for the dumps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Are the two Color Sounds and Ripper 16K programs or actually 8K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 The two color sounds are ~9-10K before the rest is almost entirely zeros, it's beyond my pay grade to work out if that's all required. Looks right to me. Ripper the first 8192 bytes is FF so thats an overdump, I've attached the 8K version. Ripper (1985 Romox).bin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Thanks! BTW, the year should be 1983, not 1985. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr0tki Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) Some further analysis: - As MR Robot already noticed, "A8 - Castles & Keys.bin" is identical to the known ROM at Atarimania, while "A8 - Castles & Keys Final.bin" is a formerly-unknown version. I haven't noticed any gameplay differences. - "A8 - Flapper.bin" is an overdump, with first 8KB empty. The ROM at Atarimania is also an overdump, but containing random garbage in the first 8KB. The last 8KB is identical in both ROMs though. I am attaching the 8KB ROM image below. - "A8 - Porky's.bin" is different from the known ROM at Atarimania, but only in 16 bytes in the area between $3D0B and $3D5A. It might be a legitimate different version, or a bad dump. I haven't noticed any gameplay differences. - "A8 - Retrofire.bin" is an overdump, with first 8KB empty. I am attaching the stripped-off 8KB ROM below. - "A8 - Topper.bin" differs from the known ROM in the $0000-$0201 area, which is level graphics, and seems to be a bad dump - the vertical stripes cover the playfield when the level starts. - "A8 - Beat It Mar-9-86.bin", "A8 - Dancing Feats Dec 08 83.bin", "A8 - Maniac master Mar-9-84.bin" are all new ROMs. Flapper (1983)(Romox)(US).bin Retrofire (1983)(Romox)(US).bin Edited December 3, 2021 by Kr0tki 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Thanks for looking at these. I need to make some pages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) On 7/16/2020 at 4:29 AM, Mclaneinc said: Thank you for the dumps... Complementing people for dumping.... Edited December 3, 2021 by snicklin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 You have been in Oz too long now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Mclaneinc said: You have been in Oz too long now.. I dunny know about that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 14 hours ago, snicklin said: I dunny know about that... Strewth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Thanks for digging that out. I missed it last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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