Ed in SoDak Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) I found these on my drives. Both run under Classic 9.2.2 on my G4 mirror door. Deluxe 1.0 is playable on slow, Plus v2.0 is so fast on any speed setting the ball is invisible till it stops when I miss. Both are color but there's settings for that too. Edit: Had to delete the first try, this one is a self-extracting archive. brickles.sea Edited August 5, 2020 by Ed in SoDak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierd_w Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 The cd could come before it in the chain. In this case though, you would just be using the CD as a large transfer medium to house an .smi file that you double click to get the Net Install version of the 7.5.5 installer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 Thanks I found brickles on macintoshgarden. And transylvania on macintoshrepository. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Set up an Appletalk network. Better yet, install Ethernet in the SE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierd_w Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Or if you cant find one, get a localtalk to ethernet bridge. (They made them for stylewriters and pals) Pricey, but probably cheaper than an SE ethernet board. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Asante-AsanteTalk-ethernet-serial-LocalTalk-bridge-for-Apple-Macintosh-WORKING/283967114923?hash=item421dc24eab:g:-2oAAOSwF~9fI2dR Edit NOPE! Wow! About the same! https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Apple-Macintosh-SE-Ethernet-Adapter-NIC-Card-Cabletron-90000204/193176077190?hash=item2cfa310386:g:XSAAAOSwGbhdsxr0 Edited August 5, 2020 by wierd_w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Ed in SoDak said: Set up an Appletalk network. Better yet, install Ethernet in the SE! PDS cards are super expensive. Especially ethernet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just found this. Will this work? And whats the point of putting such an old machine on the internet. No current browsers or pages will work. https://www.ebay.com/itm/383378669499 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 That card is for the LC, the SE has it's own version of the PDS port. If you had such a card for the SE, you could link it to another Mac or PC and trade files over your own ethernet network. I just tossed ethernet at you as a laugh since you had just said you didn't want to put more money into it. I had no idea they were that high. But sky's the limit, right? Makes me wonder now what that card is I pulled from one of my SEs that I always guessed was ethernet but apparently is not... Appletalk/Localtalk would also work, but it's really slow using the serial port on the rear. It would need only the cable and Appleshare which you select using the Chooser. Best for single files or sharing a printer among a few connected computers. Copying a disk over it would seem like back in dial-up days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierd_w Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 A period ethernet card is only gonna do 10mbit anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 Actually I am having trouble locating a copy Microsoft flight simulator 1.0. I misplaced my floppy. Cant find a good download site. None of the downloads are working now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierd_w Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) Making the contents bootable (since it does not want to boot my emulator) is an exercise for the recipient-- But here is a raw 1.44mb hfv image containing the data from the .sit on macintosh garden. The game asserts that it needs to be booted to run. msflightsim.dsk The caveats on the download page says it only works with old mac classic hardware. (512k monochrome mac) They have flightsim 4, and it DOES work inside my emulator-- but the data is 4mb in size. I will see if I can coax it into becoming a compressed self mounting image file, that can then fit inside a floppy image. Nope. Will only pack down to 1.9mb that way. Too big. Here's a raw 5mb hfv volume file (that should be mountable using a more modern mac) that you can use to piecemeal move files into a floppy, and then onto your scsi disk with. flightsim4.hfv Edited August 7, 2020 by wierd_w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Hmm, I purchased F.S. bitd. Get info says v4.0, the folder is 1.2meg. As a sit, only 476k. flight.sit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 No I need 1.0 or 1.02. 4.0 is available everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierd_w Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 If you have diskcopy on that thing, I can make an image containing a diskcopy image file. (That is what was inside the .sit at mac garden). Then you could use your real mac to generate the disk using diskcopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, wierd_w said: If you have diskcopy on that thing, I can make an image containing a diskcopy image file. (That is what was inside the .sit at mac garden). Then you could use your real mac to generate the disk using diskcopy. I have diskcopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierd_w Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Okiedoo. I am at work at the moment. It will be sometime in the early morning tomorrow when I get off work. I will process it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierd_w Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 As promised-- Here is a raw HFV diskette image, containing a diskcopy compressed 1.44mb image (and a suitable copy of diskcopy, just in case). Copy them to the external scsi disk, then use diskcopy to regenerate the image onto a real diskette. Hopefully it will be bootable. (The original was a 400k diskette image, and I converted it. If you need the 400k diskette image version, let me know.) msflightsim.dsk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierd_w Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Well.. Further adventures: I found a raw disk image (400k) that boots mini vmac and plays. Good luck on writing it with anything though. Flight_Simulato102.dsk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 14 hours ago, wierd_w said: As promised-- Here is a raw HFV diskette image, containing a diskcopy compressed 1.44mb image (and a suitable copy of diskcopy, just in case). Copy them to the external scsi disk, then use diskcopy to regenerate the image onto a real diskette. Hopefully it will be bootable. (The original was a 400k diskette image, and I converted it. If you need the 400k diskette image version, let me know.) msflightsim.dsk 1.41 MB · 3 downloads This image worked. The other did not. I opened it up on my pc with hfv explorer. Then I coppied it to a flash on my mac mini. Then I opened it on my old ibook g3 900 and it worked. But it gave error message as you said it needs to be the boot volume. But those old systems dont run on SE only 128k. So I copied it to a 1.44 floppy with the system from my ontrack disk. Booted up and showed the old flight sim icon. But when I started the app it said please insert the master disk. I dont have a master disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierd_w Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 As far as I can tell, there is a somewhat unusual filesystem on the diskette. I spent hours trying to find a way to get that thing to properly duplicate. I suspect it was created using a kryoflux or something. You might need to get one of those yourself to reproduce the "master" diskette. (the second disk is a raw data image. If mangled with something like HxC into the appropriate datastream format for a kryoflux, then written back on a real diskette, it would probably work.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) On 8/7/2020 at 11:55 PM, wierd_w said: Also never knew they had vhs tapes back then. Just found this. https://www.ebay.com/itm/123936673752 Edited August 9, 2020 by 0078265317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) On 8/6/2020 at 9:35 PM, 0078265317 said: No I need 1.0 or 1.02. 4.0 is available everywhere. You sure about that? What I read says v1 is for system 1-5 on a Mac Plus or earlier. Though it might work on an SE with system 4 or 5 installed? V1 came out in '86, a year before the SE launched, system 4 was current then. Myself, I used FS v4.0 that I purchased new bitd (shared a few posts above) on my own SE, probably system 6 or 7x more likely. Read the fine print in this image from v1 on Macintosh Garden. Says it must run from the Master Disk, can't copy it to a hard drive. Also the catalog cover image showing the latest/greatest from MS, features a pic of a Mac Plus. And the most recent comment on MG: "I wish there was a way to extract from the emulator or mount a usb floppy to transfer to. This works great for mini vmac but I just wish it worked on a real mac like my SE or ibook." But if v1 is what you think you need, you must know something I don't! <egads!> Anyway, I wish you success in your quest. Edited August 10, 2020 by Ed in SoDak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 hours ago, 0078265317 said: Also never knew they had vhs tapes back then. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 I had v1 back in the day running on my se somehow. And even one of my teachers se30 somehow. Not sure how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, OLD CS1 said: ?? I meant specifically for apple stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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