Carlos Fandango Jr Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I recently bought the Bit Corp cart in the photos, it works fine but has these strange exposed electronics. Any ideas what this is? Assume its a fake? As its also very clean, and the label looks brand new! And if so what are those components e.g.c458 and how was this cart made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 looks legit to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Can we see the label please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Fandango Jr Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Wonder007 said: Can we see the label please? Some more photos, including the labels. And a comparison of my other Bit Corp carts. Mission & Squirrel -> I bought separately. Seem legit. Postman & Open Sesame -> From same purchase batch and have the exposed electronics. Any ideas? As I have never seen carts like the two on the right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Why do you think they are fake? Is it because you can see what I assume is some sort of a resistor? If that is the only thing you see wrong with it, I wouldn't worry. I many examples of games like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, atari181 said: Why do you think they are fake? Is it because you can see what I assume is some sort of a resistor? If that is the only thing you see wrong with it, I wouldn't worry. I many examples of games like this. Two resistors, a capacitor and a C458 transistor, it looks to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) Just looked at 3 Bit Corp carts and 2 had the same type of board Edited August 2, 2020 by atari181 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Fandango Jr Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, atari181 said: Why do you think they are fake? Is it because you can see what I assume is some sort of a resistor? If that is the only thing you see wrong with it, I wouldn't worry. I many examples of games like this. Awesome, thanks for checking and sending the photos.. I didn't know if they were fake or not.. basically because I had never seen carts with exposed resistors, capacitors etc. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreDecker Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) That's definitely weird, that resistors and those lovely Tantalum capacitors that explode when they wear out would be needed - especially when placed in front of the shielded area where the microchip resides behind... maybe the chips they used require less power, hence resisters, and the capacitor could be there to lessen the power-up stress of electricity flowing through. While merely and solely academic, it'd be fun to see a schematic for their design. I've not seen that very often. Or the resisters are used as a bug fix, not unlike how you can open up an old computer and sometimes see a wire affixed between two chips over the board rather than using a new PCB layout...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantalum_capacitor#Failure_modes_and_self-healing_mechanism As for item legitimacy, I'm pretty sure they're the real deals. Edited August 4, 2020 by CommodoreDecker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 It is just an inverter circuit, nothing special. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 5:32 AM, Carlos Fandango Jr said: Awesome, thanks for checking and sending the photos.. I didn't know if they were fake or not.. basically because I had never seen carts with exposed resistors, capacitors etc. Thanks again! Where did you acquire these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 It's legit, just another cheaper way to invert the chip select. Parker also used this method every once in a while. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Fandango Jr Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Wonder007 said: Where did you acquire these? ebay, a while back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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