The Atari Jaguar Guy Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Does anyone have the Phase Zero cart, is it worth getting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Quite a few of us, actually, and whether it's worth getting is entirely subjective. The game isn't 100% complete, but it's mostly there, and serves as a decent technical showcase of what the Jag can do in the hands of a good developer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Atari Jaguar Guy Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Awesome, I think that will be next for me on my jag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 You can buy it on my Songbird website and it includes a professionally printed box. The first four levels are complete -- 3D terrain, combat, sound effects, enemies, and objectives are all there. After that there are some unfinished levels, so it is definitely a beta game and not a full game. I licensed the game from the original developers many years ago with the hopes of them also finding the source code so I could properly finish the remaining levels. Unfortunately they never found the source. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguar 2000 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 I am late this barbecue but i just want to give a shout out to Songbird Productions! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcio_napoli Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Oh, Phase Zero...! Whenever I think about Jag's best showcased power, it always comes to mind Skyhammer, AVP, Rayman, etc, somehow I rarely remember PZ, but it's one of those games that really showcases Jag's power. I know it's not polys, voxel is a completely different animal, but who cares! The end product is what matters, and personaly I 100% believe this game is more impressive than a ton of Saturn, Ps1 and N64 games (and for a N64 fanboy like me to say that, you know I really mean it). PZ is one of those games that had it been lauched as a packing game, Jag's history would have been entirely different. We would be on the Jag's 7th generation by now. Imagine seeing those graphics in 93 when the SNES was bragging about mode 7 flat planes... EDIT: You know how many times people miss opportunities throughout history, as in "scr#wing big time". If Atari really knew how to handle things, they should have seen PZ's development and said "stop the press, full stop! From now on, how many different ways can we explore an re-use this voxel thing without people noticing it's the exact same core game underneath??" I mean, Nintendo was brilliant with its mode 7, but if you look close enough, it's the same gimmick with a ton of different coats of paint. Atari should have played to the Jag's strengths and explored the voxel engine to no end, much more impressive results than crude polygonal engines. But as you know, people are experts in scr#wing things up throughout history... Edited August 22, 2020 by marcio_napoli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 It's a great game, very much a shame it was never finished or properly released. I think it showed potential for a different style of game. Not everything should have been textured polygons (or even polygons at all). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguar 2000 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 should have been on the Jaguar too. definitely would have pushed more sales. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LianneJaguar64 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Jaguar 2000 said: Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 should have been on the Jaguar too. definitely would have pushed more sales. Now, that's a whole different kettle of fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguar 2000 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 15 hours ago, LianneJaguar64 said: Now, that's a whole different kettle of fish ? i dont follow. it certainly could not have been worse than the genesis version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlynxalot Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 How does Phase Zero compare to Air Cars? It seems somewhat similar, driving over landscapes on a hover vehicle shooting lasers at other hover vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 22 hours ago, sirlynxalot said: How does Phase Zero compare to Air Cars? It seems somewhat similar, driving over landscapes on a hover vehicle shooting lasers at other hover vehicles. Same idea and game design yes, but PZ has the prettier enviroments, made of "voxels". All objects are sprites though, and IMO they look a bit off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidGameR186496 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, agradeneu said: Same idea and game design yes, but PZ has the prettier enviroments, made of "voxels". All objects are sprites though, and IMO they look a bit off. Kind of... Hyper Image Productions actually used their own interpretation of the heighmap technique seen in titles like CyberRace. Speaking of that (and i'm not trying to stroke up my own ego here, just a fun tidbit), i talked to Paul Good months ago about his work on Phase Zero and he told me that the work i did about the game's article on Wikipedia is almost accurate and thanked me for doing so, which was really cool since i did it because i was interested in the game and i played the beta build already. It could have been a good title for the Jaguar but alas, it was not to be unfortunately... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Phase Zero should have definitely replaced Air Cars. Certainly not one of the Jag games with an embarrassingly slow frame rate. All this talk of Phase Zero is making me want to hook my Jag to the projector. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LianneJaguar64 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 9:30 PM, Jaguar 2000 said: ? i dont follow. it certainly could not have been worse than the genesis version. Talking about games that could have turned the Jaguar round is a well-worn path in this forum, my friend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundGammon Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 8/22/2020 at 2:03 PM, Jaguar 2000 said: I am late this barbecue but i just want to give a shout out to Songbird Productions! You're NEVER late for the barbecue as long as you bring beer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguar 2000 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 12 hours ago, LianneJaguar64 said: Talking about games that could have turned the Jaguar round is a well-worn path in this forum, my friend ohhh. if i had the skills to code and make new jag games, i'd be doing arcade hits from the 90s. just a dream.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguar 2000 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 12 hours ago, SoundGammon said: You're NEVER late for the barbecue as long as you bring beer! Beer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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