Ed in SoDak Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I seem to recall reading that certain CF cards do not play well with the nanopeb, but couldn't locate any reference. I don't want to buy one only to find out it won't work. I do have an older 2gig card I could use and install the new card in the camera, if need be. It's so well-used that the stickers have worn off and I can't even tell the maker, let alone speed. Any info or help? Thanks!! -Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 trial and error.. the ones i have in my store both work.. sandisk 4gb and a generic 2gb card I got a stack of Greg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestyx Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 So far, I've only had luck with SanDisk CF cards. I have a Transcend that gets corrupted every time I try to use it with the nanoPEB, and the SD-to-CF card adapter I'm using also has had no success with the 2GB PNY SD cards I have, as well as an ancient Lexar 128MB card I used many years ago in an HP camera. Too bad it wasn't designed to use SD cards, although there may be a technical reason for that. The manual itself states this: Due to TI-99/4a’s bus timing, hard disks and some Compact Flash cards will not work. Generally, SanDisk and Kingston cards are reliable. I'm sure Greg tests his cards before shipping, so if you're having a problem sourcing one that works, sounds like he can help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 Thanks for the help! This is a non-working nanopeb, with neither the IDE to CF adapter nor a CF card. Not wishing to throw good money after bad, since it may all be for naught anyway. I'd at least like to start with something that's expected to work, I'll have enough of a challenge with the current non-working status to add more uncertainty. -Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FarmerPotato Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 45 minutes ago, Ed in SoDak said: I seem to recall reading that certain CF cards do not play well with the nanopeb, but couldn't locate any reference. I don't want to buy one only to find out it won't work. I do have an older 2gig card I could use and install the new card in the camera, if need be. It's so well-used that the stickers have worn off and I can't even tell the maker, let alone speed. Any info or help? Thanks!! -Ed I have not experimented with others. These are the kinds that came with/work with my CF7+ and NanoPeb (so far interchangeable) Sandisk 256MB Kingston 32MB Sandisk 2GB Ultra 15MB/s (this ridiculous size is hard to back up/edit with TI99dir!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, FarmerPotato said: Sandisk 2GB Ultra 15MB/s (this ridiculous size is hard to back up/edit with TI99dir!) Hmmm... I just placed an order with Arcadeshopper for his refurbed 2gig. I did plan to use TI99dir, maybe I should cancel? It's by paypal, so I haven't totally commited to it yet. This is Vorticon's old nanopeb which failed on him. I hope to apply my "magic touch" and somehow "fix" it. That may be unlikely, but I do want what I add to be useful and working on the slight chance I succeed. For my own TI99 setup, a Gotek drive would be more in line for easier transferring of my old floppy collection, since the device will live with my existing PEB and a physical floppy drive. -Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 I went with Greg's 2g refurbed card. Got the adapter on it's way from Wallyworld for 9 bucks shipped. If the nano can be made to work, I'd be in at about a third of the cost of new. If not, well, I'm not out much on the gamble and the CF card would still be useful for my camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierd_w Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 The card needs to handle 8bit IO, from my limited understanding. It's a legacy ATA mode, that's not really used by much these days. The nanopeb (or at least the one I have?) has the entire other 8 bits of the IO literally sawed off the connector. Getting a manufacturer to specify if their cards support 8bit IO mode or not is about as easy as getting them to tell you what the flash erase block size is on an SD Card. Good luck with that. Better to just make a database here on AA, that lists known working cards (with FCCID numbers to better track production runs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 Who knows? Not I! At least the CF is coming from our esteemed Greg, so there's that on it's behalf. The IDE adapter, well, that's part of the cheap gamble, choice based more on similar appearance and it had the three blinkin' lites. Of course I won't know a thing about their function till I try 'em in a known non-working nanopeb that I somehow am able to make work. Nothin' ventured, nuttin' gained! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hloberg Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Sandisk 256MB Kingston 32MB Sandisk 2GB Ultra 15MB/s (this ridiculous size is hard to back up/edit with TI99dir!) and mine has a Kingston 256mb If you stick with these there is a high probability that they will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 It's funny, when shopping for them, the small sizes cost more. Cheapest were the 2g and 4g, then the uber-large zoomed back up. Settled on the 2g from Greg as it was proven, cheap and more useful for my camera than the sub-gig sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Does anyone have 256 Megs of TI programs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) If I transfer all 200 of my old floppies, guessing 150 or so DSSD and the remaining 50 are SSSD, that would be about 31 meg. Of course, many of these are dupes and backups or just not too interesting. Some would no doubt be no longer readable. So maybe half that is worth preserving. Then there's all the downloaded disk files and images of which I've only tried a small percentage. That might be 2, maybe 3 hundred megs or more. Of course that's a huge mental overload for me, but still hardly a strain on a 2g card (with 1g available for nanopeb). Besides, there's no need or sense to putting it all on the card at once. Anyway, I've got 'em all in my Classic99 folder already. When I get my own collection ported, that's where they'll go too. Disk images can be misleading. Many have just a single program and maybe the docs but the image takes 360k when there's actually just a few K of content. I tend to prefer the folder of files FIAD approach. If there's an issue with TIdir handling a 2g or bigger card, it's probably related to how many disks the menuing system is comfortable with. So I'd probably put the most interesting 50 or so on the card to start and go through them. When I get the urge, remove the ones I've reviewed and stick a new group on the card. -Ed Edited September 2, 2020 by Ed in SoDak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Ahh so his concern with the 2g card was the time it takes to back it up and restore it.. it does take a while..but it's like go watch a tv show and come back later kind of time.. not move to another state kind of time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 Greg, thanks for getting that card shipped out so soon. The adapter won't arrive till mid-month, by then I should be able to get the card ready and pile some stuff on it to try. Crossing my Magic FIngers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FarmerPotato Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 18 hours ago, arcadeshopper said: Ahh so his concern with the 2g card was the time it takes to back it up and restore it.. it does take a while..but it's like go watch a tv show and come back later kind of time.. not move to another state kind of time I seem to recall there is some utility that reads the whole card in, then pastes your dsk images into that, then writes the whole thing out. That's not ti99dir then? BTW for those new to this, the CF7/NanoPEB only uses one of every two bytes, so 2GB is .. a whole GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I seem to recall there is some utility that reads the whole card in, then pastes your dsk images into that, then writes the whole thing out. That's not ti99dir then? BTW for those new to this, the CF7/NanoPEB only uses one of every two bytes, so 2GB is .. a whole GB. Nope that's tidir.. it just takes a while to read and write.Sent from my LM-V600 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Or TIImageTool? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXB Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 8:58 AM, atrax27407 said: Does anyone have 256 Megs of TI programs? My TI99/4A folder has 16.8 Gigs. Now a ton of duplicates and backups are there too for TI stuff. A lot of it is DOWNLOADS, but I do keep those free of Duplicates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gferluga Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 How many volumes can be stored on a 32MB card? I got 39. That puzzle me. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, gferluga said: How many volumes can be stored on a 32MB card? I got 39. That puzzle me. Thanks. That's about right. The Nanopeb only uses half the data bus (8 bits of every 16 bits), and every stored disk is 400k (regardless of the actual formatted capacity). So this means every disk uses 800k of the CF's storage. 39 disks times 800k each is 31,200k, or 31,948,800 bytes. Memory cards usually measure in human scales, so 32,000,000 bytes available rather than megabytes (or the more modern, precise, and dumb sounding mebibytes), meaning you actually got pretty much the stated capacity on the card, which doesn't always happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Late update: Card arrived pre-formatted and readable on my PC with TI-Dir. Who knows if the ebay IDE to CF adapter is compatible or not. The nano does not work however, makes the TI screen go black and that's all I can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share Posted August 10, 2023 Bump. i never did get this Nanopeb to work on a known working beige non-QI TI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 So what´s the problem ? The black screen ? Maybe not enough power on the powersupply ? Or a loose or defective card reader (see eBay) you have pics ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) On 7/23/2020 at 9:04 AM, Vorticon said: Hi. I have a non-working NanoPEB which locks up my computer. Can't figure out what the issue is. If anyone wants it it's yours with my compliments and who knows you might be able to fix it. Otherwise it's going into the trash. (note: it will not come with a PS or the CF to IDE adapter. Only the board itself). Just PM me if interested. To be honest, I have never been very impressed with the CF7 or NanoPEB as I have found them to be temperamental and a bit flaky... On 8/12/2023 at 12:27 PM, Schmitzi said: So what´s the problem ? The black screen ? Maybe not enough power on the powersupply ? Or a loose or defective card reader (see eBay) you have pics ? Hi Schmitzi, I got this from @Vorticon, in non-working condition as he describes it in his quoted thread above. The CF adapter was found on ebay, I have no clue if it works on the nano or not. I had a regulated and beefy 5-volt supply and tried others as well. @arcadeshopper provided the CF card pre-formatted and ready to go. So it “should have” worked. When it didn’t, most likely there’s a problem with the nano itself, unless I messed up the cf card’s content or my cf adapter choice was a poor one. I don’t have a way to troubleshoot the nano and other than swapping the cf card and reader with known working examples I’m stuck with a shelf queen. -Ed Edited August 15, 2023 by Ed in SoDak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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