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Okay, what I'm looking for is a Hayes compatible dial up modem emulator that runs on a modern PC. The idea is, you'd be able to use a serial null modem cable to connect your modern PC to whatever you want to connect it up to, and the old computer you're hooking it up to will see it as an old dial up modem. Then the program will download data that the computer wants via WiFi, and let it go online(like onto a BBS)? Is this even technically possible to make?

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There's hardware devices that service this niche, IIRC.

 

https://www.simulant.uk/shop/retro-vintage-computer-wifi-modem-rs232-serial-hayes-compatible

 

(just an example, there are quite a few such devices.)

 

If the price was not in the stratosphere, I would just suggest a Xircom Pocket Ethernet 3 though. (It plugs into an LPT port. Slow, but gives you a real ethernet port you could attach to whatever switch, bridge, or other appliance you want to get online with.)

 

 

 

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If you are not restricted to wireless, you can also use the UDS-10, UDS-100, or the like.  They are made to be serial servers (telnet/ssh connection to manage serial devices,) but they do work in the opposite direction.

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You are looking for tcpser.  

There are Windows versions.

That's what I've been using to get my Apple II online.

I fire up TCPSER for BBSing and ADTPro for disk imaging.  Same cable connection so it's easy..

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4 hours ago, desiv said:

You are looking for tcpser.  

There are Windows versions.

That's what I've been using to get my Apple II online.

I fire up TCPSER for BBSing and ADTPro for disk imaging.  Same cable connection so it's easy..

TCPSER doesn't seem to run on my PC... Does it run on modern computers?
Would you mind awfully sending me a download link?

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Yeah I can't figure out how to use this at all. Heck, I'm not even sure if it runs in windows 10! This stuff is ridiculously complicated...

 

I've downloaded a precompiled one off the internet, and it runs but crashes a millisecond later. Which sucks.

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14 hours ago, bluejay said:

TCPSER doesn't seem to run on my PC... Does it run on modern computers?
Would you mind awfully sending me a download link?

Yep, I'm running it on Win 10.

Here's the binary I use.  

https://gbbs.applearchives.com/misc-utilities/tcpser-package/

Note:  I don't recommend people run binaries from the internet in general.  I trusted this link and it is working for me.

But you don't know me and I don't know the guy who compiled it.  Just saying. I mean, I think I am trustworthy...  ;-)

 

The only really tricky part when you run it in Windows is that you still have to use the /dev/ttySx naming for the port.

I used this to launch it initially:

"tcpser -d /dev/ttyS0 -s 19200"

(Note: /dev/ttyS0 is COM1)

I then got fancier and started using aliases:

"tcpser -d /dev/ttyS0 -s 19200 -nCQBBS=cqbbs.ddns.net:6502"

So I can type "ATDT CQBBS" to dial the Captain's Quarters BBS.

 

Good luck.

(Also, don't forget you need to extract the executable and the cygwin dlls.)

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1 hour ago, desiv said:

Yep, I'm running it on Win 10.

Here's the binary I use.  

https://gbbs.applearchives.com/misc-utilities/tcpser-package/

Note:  I don't recommend people run binaries from the internet in general.  I trusted this link and it is working for me.

But you don't know me and I don't know the guy who compiled it.  Just saying. I mean, I think I am trustworthy...  ;-)

 

The only really tricky part when you run it in Windows is that you still have to use the /dev/ttySx naming for the port.

I used this to launch it initially:

"tcpser -d /dev/ttyS0 -s 19200"

(Note: /dev/ttyS0 is COM1)

I then got fancier and started using aliases:

"tcpser -d /dev/ttyS0 -s 19200 -nCQBBS=cqbbs.ddns.net:6502"

So I can type "ATDT CQBBS" to dial the Captain's Quarters BBS.

 

Good luck.

(Also, don't forget you need to extract the executable and the cygwin dlls.)

Thanks a lot! It finally worked:) I still haven't a clue how to dial stuff with it but the point is it works!

By the way, does it support telnet only or does it also do good ole' dial-up?

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17 minutes ago, bluejay said:

Thanks a lot! It finally worked:) I still haven't a clue how to dial stuff with it but the point is it works!

By the way, does it support telnet only or does it also do good ole' dial-up?

I use ProTerm 3 on my Apple II. 

I can just type "ATDT w.x.y.x" in ProTerm to connect to most telnet BBSes or to my Raspberry Pi on my network.

For BBSes that change the default port, I use the aliases (as Proterm doesn't support the : in it's addressbook).

 

It only connects to things that you can connect with using a telnet client.  

So a telnet BBS or standard telnet on a linux box.

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You would need some kind of SIP modem emulator to do old-fashioned dialup. But most operators these days aren't gonna be running dedicated land-lines like that.

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Everything works perfectly with TCPSER. I logged onto a bunch of BBSes and messed about in them. BBSing on a Tandy 200 is rather limited though, due to it's tiny 40x16 LCD.

 

Yes. My Discord tag is Radio Shack.

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17 hours ago, bluejay said:

Everything works perfectly with TCPSER. I logged onto a bunch of BBSes and messed about in them. BBSing on a Tandy 200 is rather limited though, due to it's tiny 40x16 LCD.

 

Yes. My Discord tag is Radio Shack.

I thought that was probably you on the Tandy Discord.  🙂

Glad you got it working!!

 

Have to admit, I haven't tried telnet BBSing with my Model 100 (with its 40x8 LCD).  I have only used it on my Apple II in 80 columns.

 

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