+Pac-Lander Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Hello all! I'm building a TOP 10 7800 GAMES OF ALL TIME list, (including homebrews). They are ranked with the following considerations in mind: GRAPHIC ACHIEVEMENT SOUND ACHIEVEMENT GAME CONTROL GAME DEPTH FUN FACTOR REPLAY FACTOR Please let me know if there are any candidates that I've missed that you feel belong in the Top 10! The candidates are below. 31 flavors to start, so to speak. (Little Food Fight reference there) So far I have (in no particular order): Rikki & Vikki Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest Pac-Man Collection Commando Ikari Warriors Impossible Mission (the solvable one) Alien Brigade Joust Ninja Golf Midnight Mutants Xevious Mario Bros. Robotron 2084 Food Fight Ballblazer B*nq Beef Drop Plutos Pole Position II Centipede One-on-One Basketball Donkey Kong PK Donkey Kong Jr. Desert Falcon Galaga Froggie Dark Chambers KLAX Tower Toppler Mean 18 Ultimate Golf Xenophobe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Your bottom seven games are some of my absolute favourites on the system! Moon Cresta is a great port, and both that and Baby Pac-Man should certainly be near the top, as Baby Pac-Man is a great programming feat, introduces a new genre to the system, and is actually playable (although brutally difficult), unlike the arcade game, which is just too damn hard. The lack of SFX just kills Klax for me on the 7800, so I don't disagree with the relatively low placement, but Tower Toppler deserves better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BydoEmpire Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Of course different strokes for different folks, but if it's including homebrews where's Dungeon Stalker? IMHO that should be near the top. [Edit] I didn't read "no particular order" - you mightw ant to change to bullet points instead of numeric list, that threw me off until I reread your post. If I remember correctly the 7800 Game by Game Podcast did a more comprehensive review, and I think that was a broader view. Although it was only top 5 and didn't incorporate homebrews. There's probably a survey/thread on this somewhere in the forum, it'd be intersting to see how this community ranks everything. 2c time: Pole Position 2 is awful, other than its graphics and I suppose its (unfortunate) closeness to the arcade... which I also hate. It's a terrible game, although I know some people do like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 43 minutes ago, BydoEmpire said: where's Dungeon Stalker? This! I’d also include Donkey Kong PK. The game plays and sounds like the arcade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Pac-Lander Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, sramirez2008 said: This! I’d also include Donkey Kong PK. The game plays and sounds like the arcade. I will add Dungeon Stalker! Donkey Kong PK is on there! #22 (none of these are in order yet though!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, aaron1677 said: I will add Dungeon Stalker! Donkey Kong PK is on there! #22 (none of these are in order yet though!) Oops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Moon Cresta ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDN Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I haven't played too many 7800 games (not even 10) yet and no homebrews, but I'll tell you this: it's going to be real hard to beat Food Fight as the best game on the system. But I'm always up for giving games a fair chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaden (JRH) Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 My personal top 10: 1. Rikki and Vikki 2. Robotron 2084 3. Food Fight 4. Pac-Man Collection 5. Froggie 6. Xevious 7. Dig Dug 8. Centipede 9. Commando 10. Mario Bros. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDN Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Honestly, I wouldn’t personally include homebrews in the top ten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juansolo Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 10 hours ago, davidcalgary29 said: The lack of SFX just kills Klax for me on the 7800 Slight thread drift, but this must be ripe for a hack surely? What with us being on the brink of a new age of flash carts with at least POKEY availability in there. Admittedly I'm speaking as someone who was addicted to Klax on the Lynx back in the day so this is an entirely selfish request. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Stating "All Time" and including homebrews is a bit hard to determine as there are a lot of great titles in the works and no doubt more in the future. Top Ten Retail releases, presented in descending alphabetical order: 01 - Robotron: 2084 02 - Ninja Golf 03 - Motor Psycho 04 - Midnight Mutants 05 - Joust 06 - Food Fight 07 - Desert Falcon 08 - Commando 09 - BasketBrawl 10 - Alien Brigade Honorable Mentions: Xevious, Xenophobe, Tower Toppler, Pole Position II, Ms. Pac-Man, Ikari Warriors, Galaga, Dig Dug, Dark Chambers, Crossbow, Centipede, Ballblazer, Asteroids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 6 hours ago, juansolo said: Slight thread drift, but this must be ripe for a hack surely? What with us being on the brink of a new age of flash carts with at least POKEY availability in there. Admittedly I'm speaking as someone who was addicted to Klax on the Lynx back in the day so this is an entirely selfish request. Might be too difficult to do this without the source code. Or perhaps it's been found by now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jeremiahjt Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I think the two best reasons to own a 7800 are the best home versions of Centipede and Asteroids. So I would add Asteroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Might make sense to keep separate top 10 for retail and homebrew and I‘d like to add Scramble for the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadir Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Ballblazer may be a great demonstration on what kind of 3D graphics could be done, but honestly the game play is pretty terrible. For having a POKEY chip in it the sound was unimpressive too. I'm not sure that graphics alone should be enough to make the top 10. I sought out and purchased a cart only to give it away after just a few weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldLeader Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I love the Atari 7800 but will admit I haven't played enough of it. Lessee...(Doing it anyway), Mine would include Dungeon Stalker, Armor Attack II, Baby Pac-Man, Jinks and Astro Blaster. Glad to see Rikki & Vikki of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 19 hours ago, jeremiahjt said: I think the two best reasons to own a 7800 are the best home versions of Centipede and Asteroids. So I would add Asteroids. 7800 Asteroids is the best home console version, especially when combined with a Starplex controller.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Top Ten Retail , in no particular order Commando Ikari Warriors Ninja Golf Robotron Midnight Mutants Dig Dug Food Fight Joust Centipede Xenophobe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thag Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Top 10 games currently stand at (not in any sort of order): Xevious Desert Falcon Midnight Mutants Commando Moon Cresta Pac Man Collection Baby Pac Crystal Quest Dungeon Stalker Frenzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BydoEmpire Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 My top 10 official releases, rough order: Food Fight Dig Dug Crossbow Desert Falcon Asteroids One-on-One Joust Galaga Xevious Ms. Pac Man Wish I had a chance to play some of of the more rare titles (Midnight Mutants, Commando, Alien Brigade) so I couldn't include those without really playing them. I don't have tons of homebrews, but here's my ranking based on what I own: Pac Man Collection Dungeon Stalker KC Munchkin T:ME Salvo Beef Drop Scramble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Pac-Lander Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 8:51 AM, nadir said: Ballblazer may be a great demonstration on what kind of 3D graphics could be done, but honestly the game play is pretty terrible. For having a POKEY chip in it the sound was unimpressive too. I'm not sure that graphics alone should be enough to make the top 10. I sought out and purchased a cart only to give it away after just a few weeks. Terrible! Wow. I think the fun of this game is found in head to head, two player contests. I've always found the gameplay and control to be solid, intuitive and responsive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Folks who wish to separate the retail games from the homebrew games can do so with a clear line in the sand that was drawn between before and after Pacman Bob made the 7800 his bitch. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiv Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 What? No Karateka?? For me, everything by Bob pretty much... And I do really like Joust, Galaga, and Xevious... (Note: Not excluding Rikki and Vikki for any reason other than I just don't have/haven't played it. It looks great.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Pac-Lander Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 8 hours ago, desiv said: What? No Karateka?? For me, everything by Bob pretty much... And I do really like Joust, Galaga, and Xevious... (Note: Not excluding Rikki and Vikki for any reason other than I just don't have/haven't played it. It looks great.) Karateka is absolutely Top 10....in the worst games category! Yep, Joust, Galaga and Xevious are all faves. And please do try Rikki and Vikki if you can - it is magnificent, and very possibly the best overall game on the console! Incredible sound/music, animation, character design, puzzle design....it really does have it all! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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