Blues76 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Hi all, I was looking at best electronics options from keyboard replacements. They have multiple of them for the same machine and I was wondering what is your experience with any of them (or all of them): CA061983-2nd Atari 600XL / 800XL U.S. Qwerty Keyboard upgraded the new Best XL Lifetime Keyboard mylar CA061983-2nd $59.95 CB101055-2nd The New 2nd Gen. Best Enhanced / Upgraded / Lifetime 600XL / 800XL Keyboard replacement mylar are $32.95. CA061983PCB 600XL / 800XL U.S. Qwerty Keyboard, PCB / mechanical switch version $75.00 CB101049 65XE / 130XE Mitsumi Replacement Keyboard $22.00 CB101702 65XE / 130XE Qwerty Keyboard $36.00 CB101454 * 65XE / 130XE Sugiyama $22.00 CB102117 65XE / 130XE / 800XE “The Best” “XE” Touch (Formally called “TT” Touch for XE computers) $19.95 http://www.best-electronics-ca.com Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+videofx Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) I can speak for the CB102117 65XE / 130XE / 800XE “The Best” “XE” Touch (Formally called “TT” Touch for XE computers) $19.95 I replaced those in my XE and it makes the world of difference. Worth the 20 bucks and only took me 15 minutes to complete Hope that helps. Edited October 31, 2020 by videofx 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 51 minutes ago, Blues76 said: CB101049 65XE / 130XE Mitsumi Replacement Keyboard $22.00 CB101454 * 65XE / 130XE Sugiyama $22.00 These are both replacement mylars, not keyboards. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues76 Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, MrFish said: These are both replacement mylars, not keyboards. At the risk of sounding stupid, what are mylars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just an fyi for anyone ordering from Best, they no longer accept paypal payment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues76 Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, AtariBrian said: Just an fyi for anyone ordering from Best, they no longer accept paypal payment. What are they accepting? I guess CC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivop Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, Blues76 said: At the risk of sounding stupid, what are mylars? Mylar is the double folded plastic underneath the keys. It has conductive lines according to the keyboard matrix. They tend to fail after some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues76 Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, ivop said: Mylar is the double folded plastic underneath the keys. It has conductive lines according to the keyboard matrix. They tend to fail after some time. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 hours ago, videofx said: I can speak for the CB102117 65XE / 130XE / 800XE “The Best” “XE” Touch (Formally called “TT” Touch for XE computers) $19.95 I replaced those in my XE and it makes the world of difference. Worth the 20 bucks and only took me 15 minutes to complete Hope that helps. Definitely would add these! I did both of my 130XEs (one NTSC, one PAL) and a 1040. IMHO - my 130XE is as nice to type on now, as my 1200XL is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarland Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 FYI the TT cups (XE Touch) upgrade only work for XE keyboard that do NOT have springs under the keycaps. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Blues76 said: At the risk of sounding stupid, what are mylars? Here's what a Retronics replacement mylar for 65XE/130XE (Mitsumi keyboard) looks like, for instance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsom Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 10/31/2020 at 3:35 PM, Stephen said: Definitely would add these! I did both of my 130XEs (one NTSC, one PAL) and a 1040. IMHO - my 130XE is as nice to type on now, as my 1200XL is. Based on the recommendations here, I just received and installed these on my 130xe. If you have a 130xe, you NEED this! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwinmac Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, tsom said: Based on the recommendations here, I just received and installed these on my 130xe. If you have a 130xe, you NEED this! I second that opinion. I have the XE touch chips in my XEGS. It makes a huge difference if you do any topping on the keyboard. Bob C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilsaluki Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 10/31/2020 at 12:17 PM, videofx said: I can speak for the CB102117 65XE / 130XE / 800XE “The Best” “XE” Touch (Formally called “TT” Touch for XE computers) $19.95 I replaced those in my XE and it makes the world of difference. Worth the 20 bucks and only took me 15 minutes to complete Hope that helps. I did the TT Touch upgrade, made no difference to me. Wasted time and money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 hours ago, gilsaluki said: I did the TT Touch upgrade, made no difference to me. Wasted time and money. I did it on a 65XE. While on the original keyboard you just feel some resistance pressing the key down, the „Touch“ cups give you a little more resistance and a kind of „plop“ before registering. Not quite as klicky as an old IBM keyboard, of course. I found it rather firm for typing but would suppose that how much of a difference it makes also depends on how much your old keyboard was used. A programming or typing machine might feel mushier than a games machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdivancic Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 10/31/2020 at 2:01 PM, AtariBrian said: Just an fyi for anyone ordering from Best, they no longer accept paypal payment. When did that happen? I just ordered two weeks ago with PayPal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Keep politics out of this thread and AtariAge. This is the only warning I will post here before I start ejecting people from this thread. Attaching "No politics here" to your comment when you're CLEARLY bringing politics into the discussion isn't going to shield you, @gilsaluki. Thank you, ..Al 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, Albert said: Keep politics out of this thread and AtariAge. This is the only warning I will post here before I start ejecting people from this thread. Attaching "No politics here" to your comment when you're CLEARLY bringing politics into the discussion isn't going to shield you, @gilsaluki. Thank you, ..Al OK, what am I missing?! Obviously this was some sort of warning but, for the life of me, I can't see where anyone said anything even remotely political. Or was this a preemptive warning to someone that usually posts political stuff, even though they hadn't yet? I'm sure we can all appreciate the warning, but if nothing political was said, it's just weird and confusing to the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, bfollowell said: OK, what am I missing?! Obviously this was some sort of warning but, for the life of me, I can't see where anyone said anything even remotely political. Or was this a preemptive warning to someone that usually posts political stuff, even though they hadn't yet? I'm sure we can all appreciate the warning, but if nothing political was said, it's just weird and confusing to the rest of us. Two political posts were made and quickly removed. I would not post such a warning in a thread preemptively. ..Al 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, bfollowell said: OK, what am I missing?! Obviously this was some sort of warning but, for the life of me, I can't see where anyone said anything even remotely political. Or was this a preemptive warning to someone that usually posts political stuff, even though they hadn't yet? I'm sure we can all appreciate the warning, but if nothing political was said, it's just weird and confusing to the rest of us. It was posted and very overtly. Just because someone says "No offence, but your mom is a fat slag" doesn't take away the offence Hence Albert's wording in his warning. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 OK, gotcha. Since they were removed, but the warning wasn't, I had no idea what was going on. Thanks for clearing it and keeping stuff like that out of our boards. I'm not really thrilled with the way things went in the U.S. recently, but that has nothing to do with Atari and no place on these boards. We all just need to get along and enjoy Atari discussions and leave the politics to the politicians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, bfollowell said: We all just need to get along and enjoy Atari discussions and leave the politics to the politicians. Yes, there's no end to sites where you can discuss politics if that's your thing. Don't want it here as such discussions generally result in people pissing one another off, and discussions where politics are introduced often quickly degrade. So, let's please get back to the subject of this thread, Atari 8-Bit Keyboards (From Best). Thanks! ..Al 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 10:23 AM, mdivancic said: When did that happen? I just ordered two weeks ago with PayPal! Do you know the exact date you placed an order? On 10-23 this is what Brad typed to me... Brian we are having problems with PayPal merchant customer support. With the virus they have gutted their Customer service department down to no support. So we are switching over to G Pay Payment system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 49 minutes ago, AtariBrian said: Do you know the exact date you placed an order? On 10-23 this is what Brad typed to me... Brian we are having problems with PayPal merchant customer support. With the virus they have gutted their Customer service department down to no support. So we are switching over to G Pay Payment system. Funny, I see nothing at all about PayPal suffering a virus attack when doing some Google searches on it... ..Al 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) I just assumed he was talking about the Covid. The odd thing was, is that Brad just assumed I had G Pay which I don't. And on top of that I ordered some different items and one was for two of his new cx-40 cables. But he only charged me for one and only gave me one. So I don't know if he cut me off or made a mistake but I am pretty sure he cut me off for the order. I was afraid to ask if he could change it as he probably would of gotten upset, so I guess I just get one for now. ? Edited November 9, 2020 by AtariBrian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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