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Colours in PAL land


Andrew Davie

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11 hours ago, Bomberman94 said:

Here are some pictures of V 0.16.0 colours taken from my B&O MX4000 TV running a PAL light 6switch Atari 2600:

 

 

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Thanks for the pictures. I see you're sticking with the SMALL CAPS font. Is that your favourite?

 

As to the colours - do you have any observations/comments?

 

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3 hours ago, Andrew Davie said:

Thanks for the pictures. I see you're sticking with the SMALL CAPS font. Is that your favourite?

 

As to the colours - do you have any observations/comments?

 

Yes, „Small Caps“ font is (still) my favorite - others look similar except the „Captain‘s“ font which is too wide/not enough space between single characters.

 

Colours look in real (hard to capture with my iPhone) a bit lighter and overall too washed out. The highlighted line colour is not a perfect choice - should be another colour and the light red colour (last picture) is far too light for my taste. 

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4 minutes ago, Bomberman94 said:

Yes, „Small Caps“ font is (still) my favorite - others look similar except the „Captain‘s“ font which is too wide/not enough space between single characters.

 

Colours look in real (hard to capture with my iPhone) a bit lighter and overall too washed out. The highlighted line colour is not a perfect choice - should be another colour and the light red colour (last picture) is far too light for my taste. 

 

TY.

The fonts are, however, all exactly the same width/spacing -- that is, 3 pixels wide + 1 pixel space.

I agree on the washed out colours -- this is partly because every colour you see onscreen is 50% mid-blue (the background colour).

I'll be trying to improve the PAL colours for the next release.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Andrew Davie said:

 

TY.

The fonts are, however, all exactly the same width/spacing -- that is, 3 pixels wide + 1 pixel space.

I agree on the washed out colours -- this is partly because every colour you see onscreen is 50% mid-blue (the background colour).

I'll be trying to improve the PAL colours for the next release.

 

 

Will do a screenshot for every font with same characters onscreen to show how it looks like on my TV with normal antenna connection (to show what i mean - especially regarding Captain‘s font. 

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50 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said:

I have the same problem with text colors lacking contrast on my PAL TV (2600 composite modded).

Yes, there's a new version in the DEV branch which corrects all the colour issues.

Hopefully @Al_Nafuur will release a new test beta soonish!

 

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41 minutes ago, Al_Nafuur said:

can you push your changes to the GIT repro?

 

I thought I did. Can you see what I've done wrong here...?  Here's the URL and the commit...
 

boo@Andrews-MacBook-Pro atari-2600-pluscart.git % git config --get remote.origin.url
git@gitlab.com:firmaplus/atari-2600-pluscart.git
boo@Andrews-MacBook-Pro atari-2600-pluscart.git % gi log
zsh: command not found: gi
boo@Andrews-MacBook-Pro atari-2600-pluscart.git % git log
commit c126fd0e10936118b8967dd6df9cccae04680b33 (HEAD -> dev)
Author: Andrew Davie <andrew@taswegian.com>
Date:   Wed Nov 18 20:41:51 2020 +1000

    rework of menu system
    
    * paging U/D/L/R function modified
      on a single page menu...
        UP will go to previous item on page
        DOWN will go to next item on page
        LEFT will go to top of page
        RIGHT will go to bottom of page
      on multi-page menus...
        UP will move up one item
          or if at top will go last item on previous page
        DOWN will move down one item
          or if at bottom will go to first item on next page
        LEFT will go to first item on previous page
        RIGHT will go to first item on next page

 

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38 minutes ago, Andrew Davie said:

I don't understand where that commit has gone....????

My local history shows it, and I do a diff on it with its parent, and I see all my changes.

Should I re-grab the dev branch, and re-do the changes?

 

now it is in origin/dev with your test commit.

 

did you pushed the first commit ?

maybe it has been pushed from your local repro with your test commit

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2 minutes ago, Al_Nafuur said:

now it is in origin/dev

I'm TOTALLY confused.

I did a re-grab, made the changes, did an add/commit/push ... and it told me I was in a protected branch and the commit was rejected.

When I look at https://gitlab.com/firmaplus/atari-2600-pluscart/-/tree/dev I don't see any of my changes...

time to just chuck it all in

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$ git pull
remote: Enumerating objects: 28, done.
remote: Counting objects: 100% (28/28), done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (18/18), done.
remote: Total 28 (delta 8), reused 28 (delta 8), pack-reused 0
Unpacking objects: 100% (28/28), done.
From gitlab.com:firmaplus/atari-2600-pluscart
   a52c4f0..ef352d1  dev        -> origin/dev
Updating a52c4f0..ef352d1
Fast-forward
 source/Atari2600ROM/GlacierBelle.asm               |   2 +-
 source/Atari2600ROM/PlusCart.asm                   | 215 ++++++++++++---------
 source/Atari2600ROM/PlusCart.bin                   | Bin 32768 -> 32768 bytes
 source/Atari2600ROM/SmallCaps.asm                  |   4 +-
 .../.settings/org.eclipse.cdt.codan.core.prefs     |  56 ++++++
 .../STM32firmware/PlusCart/Inc/firmware_ntsc_rom.h |  94 ++++-----
 .../PlusCart/Inc/firmware_pal60_rom.h              |  91 ++++-----
 .../STM32firmware/PlusCart/Inc/firmware_pal_rom.h  |  91 ++++-----
 source/STM32firmware/PlusCart/Inc/global.h         |   2 +-
 .../PlusCart/Src/cartridge_firmware.c              |  80 ++++----
 source/STM32firmware/PlusCart/Src/font.c           |   4 +-
 11 files changed, 369 insertions(+), 270 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 source/STM32firmware/PlusCart/.settings/org.eclipse.cdt.codan.core.prefs

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5 minutes ago, Al_Nafuur said:

now it is in origin/dev with your test commit.

 

did you pushed the first commit ?

maybe it has been pushed from your local repro with your test commit

 

OK, yes--- it's there with my test commit. AFAIK... the comment on the file seems OK. I'm too tired to get up and check the build though.

Here's what I think happened...

 

I did an add/commit/push, but through the STM IDE.... and it *silently* failed...

because there were remote changes, so first I should have done a pull/merge.

But because it silently failed, the git log showed I'd done the commit...  but it wasn't pushed (and that was not shown).

So when I did the test, I first did a pull, and then I did an add/commit/push

And that seems to have incorporated my earlier changes.

 

So it my be OK.

 

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On 11/17/2020 at 1:03 PM, Bomberman94 said:

Will do a screenshot for every font with same characters onscreen to show how it looks like on my TV with normal antenna connection (to show what i mean - especially regarding Captain‘s font. 

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17 minutes ago, Bomberman94 said:

Look at „ESP8266“ - only works well with „Small Caps“

17 minutes ago, Bomberman94 said:

Here are the different fonts:

 

SMALL CAPS:

 

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TRICHOTOMIC-12:

 

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CAPTAIN MORGAN SPICE:

 

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GLACIER BELLE:

 

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