Finn Mac Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 12 hours ago, bluejay said: If you are going to transplant a modern computer into that STe a Raspberry Pi is the way to go. I believe a Pi 4 is capable of running Windows 10. Thank you for your suggestion by the way. It seems very viable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djglish Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I did what you are looking to do with a dead Atari STF computer. I'm not completely finished yet. I mounted a tiny Celeron computer in the case. There are instructions on how to use an Arduino Leonardo board to convert the Keyboard to USB. I agree with the others. Don't kill a good working STe to create this. You can probably find a non-working ST instead. I'll take some photos of my work in progress and post it here. I just retired (literally today was my last day). This is a project to keep me busy now. Here is the Amazon link to the mini-pc. It is only $120.00 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZYCZJVQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I'll also look for the links to the site with the Arduino coding that I used. By the way I tell people that I can't program my way out of a paper bag, but I can build things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Mac Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, djglish said: I did what you are looking to do with a dead Atari STF computer. I'm not completely finished yet. I mounted a tiny Celeron computer in the case. There are instructions on how to use an Arduino Leonardo board to convert the Keyboard to USB. I agree with the others. Don't kill a good working STe to create this. You can probably find a non-working ST instead. I'll take some photos of my work in progress and post it here. I just retired (literally today was my last day). This is a project to keep me busy now. Here is the Amazon link to the mini-pc. It is only $120.00 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZYCZJVQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I'll also look for the links to the site with the Arduino coding that I used. By the way I tell people that I can't program my way out of a paper bag, but I can build things. Haha thanks man. I've looked around for a broken ste but unable to find one. I'll post an add in wanted Edit: I think I found what you're talking about re the code you used, i wouldn't have thought about that thank you: https://github.com/devonshire/arduino-atari-hid-keyboard/blob/master/USB_HID_Keyboard.ino Edited November 26, 2020 by Finn Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejay Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 32 minutes ago, Finn Mac said: Haha thanks man. I've looked around for a broken ste but unable to find one. I'll post an add in wanted Keep in mind STe's aren't the only STs out there. A regular ST would be much easier to come by at a cheap price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Mac Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, bluejay said: Keep in mind STe's aren't the only STs out there. A regular ST would be much easier to come by at a cheap price. Oh thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Mac Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, djglish said: (literally today was my last day) Congratulations on retiring man! By the way, I've had an extensive look everywhere and I can't seem to find an ST, STF, STE for parts anywhere Edited November 26, 2020 by Finn Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 23 hours ago, bluejay said: If that's a working machine I'd highly advise you to keep it as it is, and use a broken Mac SE or something for a sleeper build. Those are relatively cheap and common compared to the 1040ste and can fit lots of stuff inside. But not an SE/30. They're still out there, but not getting easier to find. I regret getting rid of my last remaining one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, x=usr(1536) said: But not an SE/30. They're still out there, but not getting easier to find. I regret getting rid of my last remaining one. Oh, NOT an SE/30 for sure. He'd be throwing money away. With an old Mac case, he'd have plenty of room and space for a mini-pc MB and LCD monitor. What will cost is the keyboard. Those things are getting hard to come by as I understand it. Still, I think there is a lot of hope with this project and more frustration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 19 hours ago, Finn Mac said: I feel the pain and empathize with you, man i do but i will have the electronics stored somewhere safe or i will sell them so they don't get trashed. Also am not really willing to spend 250 - 300 au on a satan drive. But be assured i shall take good care of the electronics. If i could get the satan drive for a lower price point I'd happily do it Hmmm - UltraSatan (much faster than Satandisk) price is about 100 $ + shipping, what depends from buyers location. Think about how many SW, games fit on 1 SD card (price about 10 bucks) ... + much more reliable than floppy disks. Yes, location ? I would be interested for STE motherboard - if it is working. I'm in Europe, so shipping can cost little more if it's oversea, but I don't need floppy drive and metal shields, so can save on some weight. PM me if interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djglish Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I found the site that has the code for the keyboard conversion. He built a Raspberry Pi hybrid into an Atari ST. kevinpeat.com/atari_pi_reworked.html It shows the whole project and there is a link to the coding. It might be the same one that you found. I mounted my PC using some screw type rivets. That makes it easy to remove the PC from the case. Here are some pictures of my project, so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Sorry if you stated this before, but are you going to use the original STe keyboard? If so, grab the "TT-Touch" keyboard upgrade - it will definitely improve it's feel. http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/520_1040.htm About 2/3's of the way down the page... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Windows instead of freemint? Sounds like a downgrade. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Mac Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 16 hours ago, Justin Payne said: Oh, NOT an SE/30 for sure. He'd be throwing money away. With an old Mac case, he'd have plenty of room and space for a mini-pc MB and LCD monitor. What will cost is the keyboard. Those things are getting hard to come by as I understand it. Still, I think there is a lot of hope with this project and more frustration. Not using an lcd that's for sure ? crt for this guy 2 hours ago, DarkLord said: Sorry if you stated this before, but are you going to use the original STe keyboard? If so, grab the "TT-Touch" keyboard upgrade - it will definitely improve it's feel. http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/520_1040.htm About 2/3's of the way down the page... Yes i am. And thank you very much dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Mac Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 7 hours ago, djglish said: I found the site that has the code for the keyboard conversion. He built a Raspberry Pi hybrid into an Atari ST. kevinpeat.com/atari_pi_reworked.html It shows the whole project and there is a link to the coding. It might be the same one that you found. I mounted my PC using some screw type rivets. That makes it easy to remove the PC from the case. Here are some pictures of my project, so far. Oh dude i LOVE that look. Thank you again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I just saw this on FB group Vintage Apple Macintosh Enthusiasts. It's 3D printed. He's in the process of getting it prepped, hence the finish but that is really looking nice. He's going to put a mini ITX in it but I think he could put a much larger MB to save a few bucks and give him more power. power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 You know, I have a 1040STfm that has some issues you could use instead of a working 1040STe... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Mac Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 8 hours ago, djglish said: I found the site that has the code for the keyboard conversion. He built a Raspberry Pi hybrid into an Atari ST. kevinpeat.com/atari_pi_reworked.html It shows the whole project and there is a link to the coding. It might be the same one that you found. I mounted my PC using some screw type rivets. That makes it easy to remove the PC from the case. Here are some pictures of my project, so far. Hey which Arduino board did you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Finn Mac said: Not using an lcd that's for sure ? crt for this guy Yes i am. And thank you very much dude! Wha? You're going to use a CRT for a modern PC? I think it would be challenge then to find a 9" CRT that will fit into a Mac case and achieve a resolution high enough to produce a worthy display. My current card's lowest setting is 800x600 and TBH, I wouldn't want to use any modern OS at that resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Mac Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Justin Payne said: Wha? You're going to use a CRT for a modern PC? I think it would be challenge then to find a 9" CRT that will fit into a Mac case and achieve a resolution high enough to produce a worthy display. My current card's lowest setting is 800x600 and TBH, I wouldn't want to use any modern OS at that resolution. The thing is i really want the aesthetic because that is the main part for me. I have had a few offers for the motherboard but i appreciate the assistance in lookin into the Mac SE. Im using an external monitor with a vga to hdmi convert. Im putting the raspberry pi in the Atari shell Edited November 27, 2020 by Finn Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Mac Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, leech said: Windows instead of freemint? Sounds like a downgrade. ? An emulator ive found out works well enough Edited November 27, 2020 by Finn Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Finn Mac said: The thing is i really want the aesthetic because that is the main part for me. I have had a few offers for the motherboard but i appreciate the assistance in lookin into the Mac SE. Im using an external monitor with a vga to hdmi convert. Im putting the raspberry pi in the Atari shell Well, I don't think anyone would notice that you're using a LCD instead of a CRT and an LCD would be much more useable and easier to hook up to a modern PC. I'm sure a 9" 4:3 LCD that gets at least 1280x1024 is doable. A monitor that does 1600x1200 might be doable but it'll be a challenge to find. If you want bigger, I don't the old Mac is the way to go. Edited November 27, 2020 by Justin Payne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Check this out. Stuart Brand, in the Retropie Makers FB page, put a lense on top of a LCD making it appear to look like a CRT. This thing is amazing. That might be a solution to added a LCD to old Mac case and still making it look like a CRT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Mac Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Justin Payne said: Check this out. Stuart Brand, in the Retropie Makers FB page, put a lense on top of a LCD making it appear to look like a CRT. This thing is amazing. That might be a solution to added a LCD to old Mac case and still making it look like a CRT. Thats sick! I appreciate the assistance, but again im not using the mac SE I am doing what you all advised against (to my detriment who knows? Lol) Edited November 27, 2020 by Finn Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 53 minutes ago, Finn Mac said: Thats sick! I appreciate the assistance, but again im not using the mac SE I am doing what you all advised against (to my detriment who knows? Lol) I think the point everyone had was that STs are everywhere and if you are going to butcher a machine do it to one of those. Taking apart a working STe to put something else in is like taking a crap on the Mona Lisa (well maybe not that extreme, but still...) I mean in my mind juat getting a MiSTer and then adapting original (external) keyboards is a better method. But then you aren't even going to be running original software and using an ST keyboard in Windows seems unlikely to be very usable (as a lot of keys are missing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 59 minutes ago, Finn Mac said: Thats sick! I appreciate the assistance, but again im not using the mac SE I am doing what you all advised against (to my detriment who knows? Lol) Oh, I know, but this technique could be used to make a modern LCD into what appears to be a CRT. Might give others ideas for future projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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