Shawn Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, Oldschool80skid said: Bentleys Bear's Crystal Castle Roms - No Sound Commando - works fine Do I need to update my firmware? Thanks,!! With the results from the 2 homebrews and knowing you don't have a POKEY installed I'm sure Commando is working but you are not getting the full range of sound as it also uses POKEY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Shawn said: I'm sure Commando is working but you are not getting the full range of sound as it also uses POKEY. Really good POKEY sound at that! Great, now I can't get that tune out of my head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool80skid Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, DrVenkman said: Nope, 0.95 is the most recent. So it must be my system then, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Oldschool80skid said: So it must be my system then, correct? What must be your system? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool80skid Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, DrVenkman said: What must be your system? The roms that I mentioned not having sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Oldschool80skid said: The roms that I mentioned not having sound. Nah, see the responses before you replied to me. Those roms require POKEY. Stick one in your Concerto and they should have sound. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool80skid Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, DrVenkman said: Where would I be able to find the non-pokey roms? Edited January 28, 2021 by Oldschool80skid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Read the answers to your question, please. I'll buy your system, if you think it's broken, after you read the answers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool80skid Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said: Read the answers to your question, please. I'll buy your system, if you think it's broken, after you read the answers. Thank you so much. Which post number is the answer that you are referring too that tells me whetre to find the roms with sound? My system works fine apparently so you can purchase elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+eebuckeye Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Did you install a Pokey on the Concerto? If not, no sound for those games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Oldschool80skid said: that tells me whetre to find the roms with sound? You have them already. #456 #457 #462 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Oldschool80skid said: Thank you so much. Which post number is the answer that you are referring too that tells me whetre to find the roms with sound? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-POKEY-Chip/293958152418?hash=item44714570e2:g:0-MAAOSwN35f3hhZ I realise that's only one ROM with sound, not ROMs (plural), but it'll solve every problem you're having. Well, perhaps not the reading comprehension ones, but if you can successfully buy that or one very much like it and cram it into a Concerto, you should at least receive an iota of enlightenment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NISMOPC Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, Oldschool80skid said: I have not installed a Pokey chip. If you're hungry - You have have to eat. If you're thirsty - You have to drink. If you're no-Pokey - You have to Pokey. Edited January 28, 2021 by NISMOPC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool80skid Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NISMOPC said: If you're hungry - You have have to eat. If you're thirsty - You have to drink. If you're no-Pokey - You have to Pokey. Must be a slow news day. Edited January 28, 2021 by Oldschool80skid Fun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swami Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said: Sonic with POKEY for concerto? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Hi everyone, Apologies to all that I haven't been around much the past couple of weeks to contribute. Anyway, attached is the Millie & Molly 7800 demo and Arkanoid demo specifically containing the Concerto pokey initialisation fix that Darryl has made for Popeye. Any feedback in regards to the pokey playing would be appreciated. millieandmolly_demo_concerto.a78 arkanoid_concerto.a78 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 17 hours ago, mksmith said: Hi everyone, Apologies to all that I haven't been around much the past couple of weeks to contribute. Anyway, attached is the Millie & Molly 7800 demo and Arkanoid demo specifically containing the Concerto pokey initialisation fix that Darryl has made for Popeye. Any feedback in regards to the pokey playing would be appreciated. millieandmolly_demo_concerto.a78 128.13 kB · 5 downloads arkanoid_concerto.a78 128.13 kB · 5 downloads Both crash after their respective introductions after a new game is started. There is no sound the entire time. I experience the same results with the original/normal/standard files as well. For the record, the Popeye Concerto sound fix hack works with my setup. Once a future firmware rectifies the POKEY initialization issue, it most certainly will be well appreciated, and these workaround (attempts) will no longer be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Trebor said: Both crash after their respective introductions after a new game is started. There is no sound the entire time. I experience the same results with the original/normal/standard files as well. Confirmed - seeing the same thing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Thanks guys - surprised there is no sound at all. Interesting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, mksmith said: Thanks guys - surprised there is no sound at all. Interesting... I’m pretty sure it’s that the POKEY @ 0450 but in the header isn’t recognized yet. Turning the bit off should fix it for now. I want to say the byte in the header for 128k+RAM (without pokey) is $46 but I will check later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, batari said: I’m pretty sure it’s that the POKEY @ 0450 but in the header isn’t recognized yet. Turning the bit off should fix it for now. I want to say the byte in the header for 128k+RAM (without pokey) is $46 but I will check later. Attached are the 'fixed-fix' ROMs: Millie And Molly (Demo) (Concerto Fix) (20210129).a78Arkanoid (Concerto Fix) (20210129).a78 Both work now with Concerto under my setup. In each game though, there is some odd corruption/flickering with the first character in either alpha or/and numeric data in the start of a line for both games. Arkanoid is missing the "AtariAge" jingle*; however, all other POKEY sounds seem fine. No issues noticed, besides the aforementioned character data issue, for Millie And Molly. *EDIT: Turned off/on the console loaded Arkanoid up again, and this time it played one piece/voice of the POKEY jingle for the AtariAge logo screen with the rest of the voices/instruments missing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, batari said: I’m pretty sure it’s that the POKEY @ 0450 but in the header isn’t recognized yet. Turning the bit off should fix it for now. I want to say the byte in the header for 128k+RAM (without pokey) is $46 but I will check later. 29 minutes ago, Trebor said: Attached are the 'fix-fixed' ROMs: Millie And Molly (Demo) (Concerto Fix) (20210129).a78 128.13 kB · 2 downloads Arkanoid (Concerto Fix) (20210129).a78 128.13 kB · 2 downloads Both work now with Concerto under my setup. In each game though, there is some odd corruption/flickering with the first character in either alpha or/and numeric data in the start of a line for both games. Arkanoid is missing the "AtariAge" jingle*; however, all other POKEY sounds seem fine. No issues noticed, besides the aforementioned character data issue, for Millie And Molly. *EDIT: Turned off/on the console loaded Arkanoid up again, and this time it played one piece/voice of the POKEY jingle for the AtariAge logo screen with the rest of the voices/instruments missing. Thanks guys ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 51 minutes ago, Trebor said: Attached are the 'fix-fixed' ROMs: Millie And Molly (Demo) (Concerto Fix) (20210129).a78 128.13 kB · 2 downloads Arkanoid (Concerto Fix) (20210129).a78 128.13 kB · 2 downloads Both work now with Concerto under my setup. In each game though, there is some odd corruption/flickering with the first character in either alpha or/and numeric data in the start of a line for both games. Tried both of these tonight on my daily-driver. Both have POKEY sound but I see the same character/text corruption Trebor notes. In Millie and Mollie, when you go to the Instructions screen, the corruption isn't limited to the first character - it can be any character along any given line. Further, Arkanoid flat-out doesn't recognize my paddles at all (the "Chunky Pixel Demo" in the ProPack collection works great with my paddles). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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