justclaws Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I think this might be a great mini-PC for the enthusiasts of experimenting with home-brew AtariOS. It's a more powerful APU, 6 cores, but of course significantly more expensive. Maybe for you. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Rock Pi X is an x86 raspberry, it could work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Darwin Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I still cannot figure out, why somebody wants to "hack" an OS, which simply is a slightly adapted Linux distro. It doesn't even have apps for Netflix or Amazon Prime. On the "AtariOS" the Netflix/Amazon-Prime "apps" are just Google Chrome shortcuts. It seems to me that the Atari team just programmed the dashboard and the online shop...and somehow integrated Atari Emus...but I am no expert... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Charles Darwin said: I still cannot figure out, why somebody wants to "hack" an OS, which simply is a slightly adapted Linux distro. It doesn't even have apps for Netflix or Amazon Prime. On the "AtariOS" the Netflix/Amazon-Prime "apps" are just Google Chrome shortcuts. It seems to me that the Atari team just programmed the dashboard and the online shop...and somehow integrated Atari Emus...but I am no expert... Q: Why does the dog lick its testicles? A: Because it can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 It is not about hacking. It does not need hacking, it just runs on other hardware. The dashboard app is the only thing that we need to access that store and to play those games. It still cannot run on common linux distro, AFAIK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Darwin Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 There is nothing interesting in the store right now... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Well, one can at least buy that board, but with max 4GB RAM on-board it's not much use. ? Drivers will not be compatible, but if you take only the GUI, on top of normal Linux, it's fine. It is cheap though... but the Intel chip is also old. https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005001697483480.html Also, the AMD APU is several times faster, and the graphics comparison is even worse... It's enough though to run up the user interface, some of the web-apps, and fake a VCS. For somebody who only wants to get a headline on YouTube, it will probably be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 If we could run that GUI in common Linux distro, it could be the best, but as far as I know, it is not possible yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Wizzard said: If we could run that GUI in common Linux distro, it could be the best, but as far as I know, it is not possible yet. Okay, I'll ask the question: what would you gain by running it on a different distro? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, x=usr(1536) said: Okay, I'll ask the question: what would you gain by running it on a different distro? I would not need to run the whole Atari OS just to play that VCS games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Wizzard said: I would not need to run the whole Atari OS just to play that VCS games. Well... You might need to have their OS in place to do exactly that. Referring to earlier in the thread: On 12/23/2020 at 8:38 PM, CPUWIZ said: Likely due to online activity, they probably have a bunch of keys etc., baked into the image. Server addresses, etc. etc. all useful info for people who want to roll their own. What I don't understand is what you would gain by running the VCS' GUI on top of another distro. Frankly, it sounds like a lot of work to do something that could be accomplished by having a couple of runs of a package manager install the appropriate emulator(s) on your distro of choice and have the same end result. Edited January 19, 2021 by x=usr(1536) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, x=usr(1536) said: Well... You might need to have their OS in place to do exactly that. Referring to earlier in the thread: It is much easier to run one app from normal Linux OS than to run whole OS, that is not a full-featured distro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, Wizzard said: It is much easier to run one app from normal Linux OS than to run whole OS, that is not a full-featured distro. I'm not following your point on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, x=usr(1536) said: I'm not following your point on this. sorry, I dont understand your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Wizzard said: sorry, I dont understand your point Unfortunately, I don't have another way to ask you the questions that I'm asking. Consider the subject dropped for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 It is very simple. I just told (and others) that it would be the best to have the ability to run that Atari dashboard with the games in normal production Linux distro. Normal Linux distro supports wifi, sound, etc. I did not say it will be easy to have this. That is all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Wizzard said: It is very simple. I just told (and others) that it would be the best to have the ability to run that Atari dashboard with the games in normal production Linux distro. Normal Linux distro supports wifi, sound, etc. I did not say it will be easy to have this. That is all. Okay, that makes more sense, and I follow what you're saying now. It would probably be a lot easier to rebuild the kernel on the VCS OS to work with the hardware being targetted than to try to excise the dashboard from the VCS OS and graft it onto another distro. Wifi, sound, and so forth are going to be a function of the kernel (and drivers), not the dashboard. Edited January 19, 2021 by x=usr(1536) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I think for somebody with more money, this is an interesting option! There would be an amusing irony of running AtariOS on a PC looking like a C64. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I tried to run that OS in Virtualbox, but I am not able to boot that IMG file directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCoolDave Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 IS there a download for this (if this is againt the rules no one reply please)? Maybe try it in Vmware player (it's free for personal use). You can do a lot of customize of the hardware so you might be able to get to boot... I've love to play with for a bit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_obeWAN Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Hello, Apertis 202012.04 is running fine on Asus FX504 (Intel I5 8th Gen) except WIFI/Bluetooth audio, boot to bashboard OK, play Vault games OK Wired Giga network is detected at start, I can change language (french for me), but can't update. I wait for a RTL8822CE Wifi/Bluetooth card from China for tests on my laptop Maybe Wifi + Bluetooth audio in couples of weeks, I hope... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoShedsWilson Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 This now something I want to play with. Now to locate the download. I'm also wating for this same thing with the PolyMega. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_obeWAN Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Just now, TwoShedsWilson said: This now something I want to play with. Now to locate the download. I'm also wating for this same thing with the PolyMega. The download you mean is based on the official Apertis restore image 2020.1204.160451 named, "atari-flasher-ab-upgrade.img" There are some fews and easy operations to do with the original Apertis restore image to create USB bootable Apertis disk or install Apertis on internal flash disk (permanent). I don't know if it's the place here to explain details or not ? @justclaws Is it the place ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 All hail the HackAtariOS Atari VCS portable, for richer people (than me). ? (Well, it's on IndieGogo right now - I thought in ETA Prime's video it's for sale.) https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/--191853/coming_soon ETA-Prime shows it running Cyberpunk 2077, and various emulators, in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 15 hours ago, justclaws said: All hail the HackAtariOS Atari VCS portable, for richer people (than me). ? (Well, it's on IndieGogo right now - I thought in ETA Prime's video it's for sale.) https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/--191853/coming_soon ETA-Prime shows it running Cyberpunk 2077, and various emulators, in this. Good thing it's on Indiegogo. Its credibility would have been in question otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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