phoboz Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 While Kings of Edom is being beta tested, I started to experiment with ideas for the next Atari Jaguar game. Another genre that seems to be under-represented on the system is "Metroidvania" It's actually a platformer, with with adventure game elements, the name originates from 2 games, e.g. Metroid, and Castlevania. Metroid was a game for the NES which added adventure game elements to a platform game, and later games in the Castelvania series also adopted this approach. So if anyone would be interested in a game like this, perhaps this tech demo can become a real game? However, I realize already now that it will take a very long time to design the levels for a good game in this genre: Note that this game will in no way be related to the 2 games mentioned above, these were just used as examples to describe the genre. The same info is on Wikipedia 38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto1980 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Im intersted for sure, especially as a fanboy of castlevania and metroid. As you said, i see also a heavy load of design work. Great Job, seems to me you are a Talented coder Edited January 14, 2021 by Otto1980 Added some Kind words 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwantgames:) Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Definitely interested as well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilco Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 That looks really good, I would love to see this become a real game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Wow! That looks like a great start! Some of my favorite recent games are independent Metroidvanias like Iconoclasts, Timespinner, and the original indie smash hit Cave Story, which tend to be more story focused and be slightly less sprawling. The Game Gear game Tails Adventure was a remarkable Metroidvania with lots of collectible tools and some memorable bosses. The main thing wrong with it was how little you could see at one time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterG Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Looks like you are taking on all the genres not really present on the Jag. Keep going. ? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Amazing work! Very interested as well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Not normally my kind of game, but looks very interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 This could be also a "Turrican" alike. Nice engine, you could do so many cool games with it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, PeterG said: Looks like you are taking on all the genres not really present on the Jag. Keep going. ? That is what makes the Jaguar so attractive for us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Yeah! Super Metroid is one of my all time faves. Something like this on the Jag would be very welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3V Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Yes, yes and yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Saturn Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Very nice. I'm interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 You can count me as an automatic "Yes!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFG 9000 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I'm always up for any new software on the Jag. But Metroidvania is one of my favorite genres, so this is a great concept in my book! I can't say how many times I've played through Super Metroid, Zero Mission, Symphony of the Night, Aria of Sorrow, etc. Something about the interconnecting map and the traversal-based upgrades make the world so much more immersive. Thanks for taking up the mantle, phoboz, and I'm looking forward to updates! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterG Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 1/14/2021 at 3:42 PM, agradeneu said: This could be also a "Turrican" alike. Nice engine, you could do so many cool games with it. That would also be great. I recently played Valfaris on the Xbox one and felt a bit "Turrican" while doing so, imagining how that would look like on the Jag. So... I agree with the comment above. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidGameR186496 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 14 de enero de 2021 at 5:26 AM, phoboz said: While Kings of Edom is being beta tested, I started to experiment with ideas for the next Atari Jaguar game. Another genre that seems to be under-represented on the system is "Metroidvania" It's actually a platformer, with with adventure game elements, the name originates from 2 games, e.g. Metroid, and Castlevania. Metroid was a game for the NES which added adventure game elements to a platform game, and later games in the Castelvania series also adopted this approach. So if anyone would be interested in a game like this, perhaps this tech demo can become a real game? However, I realize already now that it will take a very long time to design the levels for a good game in this genre: Note that this game will in no way be related to the 2 games mentioned above, these were just used as examples to describe the genre. The same info is on Wikipedia If I'm interested on a Metroidvania game for the Atari Jaguar? Hell yeah I am! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Biff Burgertime Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) I don't have a Jaguar and doubt that will change anytime soon, but it will eventually. So I just want to say: please keep making games! However, here's my take on the genre: I grew up with the original Castlevania so while I enjoyed Symphony of the Night, I was disappointed when they started designing ALL the sequels like that. Plus as I get older my time/patience for games isn't what it once was. I often find myself looking for linear, short(ish) games I can blast through in a few hours. My gaming sessions only last about an hour each time now, I'm not laying in bed with Dreamcast controller in-hand for hours every night. I want to be making progress, seeing action rather than exploring a lot. I'd imagine it would take a lot of creativity to design a Metroidvania with all its backtracking, so I'd be very interested to follow the development process even if I don't have a way to play it. That's why I started following the Jag scene a couple years ago, to watch its fanbase making cool shit. It's a popular genre, obviously! and it would add something new to the Jag library. I love the look of the demo, very authentic. Edited January 15, 2021 by Buffalo Biff Burgertime phrasing, grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Looks cool. Could it be used to make Gunlord on Jag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 hours ago, grips03 said: Looks cool. Could it be used to make Gunlord on Jag? Gunlord= NeoGeo Turrican But Gunlord has at least 2 layers of background parallax, lots of artwork and sprites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoboz Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) It should be possible to re-use the engine for any type of run-n-gun, side scrolling action game. I looked at some videos of Gunlord, and it seems to have one layer using a tile map (which I currently have in this demo, this is the layer the action takes place), and second layer using a large bitmap image, or a series large images (for decoration). This is just how thought about doing it, because the Jaguar's ability to handle really large images (besides from many 16x16 pixel sized tiles, as used in the first layer) is really what differs the Jaguar from the other consumer 16-bit console systems from that time (e.g. SNES, Genesis, which use 16x16 tiles for both layers. The NeoGeo would of course also be able to do how I described, but that was really not aimed at the mass consumer market) However, it can still be a Metroidvania, but in order to make it look something like Gunlord, I really need the help from very professional pixel artist(s). My current focus is to get a very good physics engine, the decoration comes later... Edited January 16, 2021 by phoboz 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlidellMan Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 For a clone of Metroid, you have a solid foundation, phoboz. Plus, I know some pixel artists on Newgrounds if you need the help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Nice! Granted I would love to see something at the level of Rayman's graphics in a mertroidvainia, if we could ger artists to do it. This looks great though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/17/2021 at 7:53 AM, leech said: Nice! Granted I would love to see something at the level of Rayman's graphics in a mertroidvainia, if we could ger artists to do it. This looks great though! I understand what you mean but that would be an unrealistic expectation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, agradeneu said: I understand what you mean but that would be an unrealistic expectation. I mean I bet we could find some artists. Though I think most of the ones that hang out on Atari Age are pixel artists. I can't draw for shit myself. Ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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