andymanone Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Hi guys, like promised, here is my first successful PoC, connecting a NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB to the ATARI VCS ?. The monitor is directly connectet to the HDMI GTX Port and it works fine and for the very first test, better than accepted ?.) I´ve tested it with a PALIT KalmX GTX 1050 TI 4GB and a Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, which I just had at hand, but it should works of course with other/newer PCIe cards too. Each graphic cards are properly recognized at boot time and works well, as far as I can see.... (See some Screenshot attached) Cheers, andY 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrymoleratsbaggle Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Sweet, I was looking at the mini pci-e adapters to try it with one of my Radeon RX580s. Do you have 3DMark to run some benchmarks with? Would be interested to see how it does with the external card. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 That's just crazy, in the best sort of way! Wow. Congratulations... Thank you for trying this, and for sharing already! (Jokingly, I ask, why not an Nvidia RTX-3090 - somebody else would ask... ha ha.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Angrymoleratsbaggle said: Do you have 3DMark to run some benchmarks with? Yes, I´ll do it soon and will post it here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 44 minutes ago, justclaws said: (Jokingly, I ask, why not an Nvidia RTX-3090 - somebody else would ask... ha ha.) Why not ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrymoleratsbaggle Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, andymanone said: Yes, I´ll do it soon and will post it here... Thank you, I look forward to see how it compares to the runs I did. Hopefully better than generic work laptop in their results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSmed Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just to make sure I understand what I am looking at here - am I seeing a cable from the connector used for the WiFi card going to the video card? I'm assuming that's a PCI-e slot. But with a WiFi card, I can't imagine it would need anything better than x1 bandwidth. And yet for the video card, I'd expect x16 would be required. How much bandwidth does it have? I am suddenly imagining my VCS resting in an absurdly large custom dock, akin to the original Intelly's Blue Whale, to house the PS and video card "riser": 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrymoleratsbaggle Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, KingSmed said: Just to make sure I understand what I am looking at here - am I seeing a cable from the connector used for the WiFi card going to the video card? I'm assuming that's a PCI-e slot. But with a WiFi card, I can't imagine it would need anything better than x1 bandwidth. And yet for the video card, I'd expect x16 would be required. How much bandwidth does it have? I am suddenly imagining my VCS resting in an absurdly large custom dock, akin to the original Intelly's Blue Whale, to house the PS and video card "riser": Yeah, it's mini pci-e. The specs say the Ryzen Embedded R1600G has 8 PCI-E lanes. (Edit: According to wikipedia mini pci-e m.2 only gets 4 lanes to use Edit2: Wikipedia doesn't specify the bandwidth per lane on m.2. But other sites say the Gen3 should be about 1GB/s per lane, with 4 lanes it sounds like it should do 4GB/s ) I would expect it to want to use all 8 lanes for full performance. I would expect it could pull somewhat decent performance from it if it can use 4 lanes. Edited January 21, 2021 by Angrymoleratsbaggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Angrymoleratsbaggle said: Sweet, I was looking at the mini pci-e adapters to try it with one of my Radeon RX580s. Do you have 3DMark to run some benchmarks with? Would be interested to see how it does with the external card. Here are my first benchmark results, done with "3DMARK / Time Spy". First the embedded AMD Vega3 Bench and than (2nd Screenshot) the GTX 1060 6GB Bench. I guess, the results are absolutely okay, if I compare it with the 3DMARK Timespy Benchmark table... It´s done without any fine tuning of Windows and/or the BIOS. I guess, it´s possible, to increase the performance for a little bit by tweaking Windows/ BIOS. Cheers, andY 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrymoleratsbaggle Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, andymanone said: Here are my first benchmark results, done with "3DMARK / Time Spy". First the embedded AMD Vega3 Bench and than (2nd Screenshot) the GTX 1060 6GB Bench That is definitely a good performance difference. Thanks for posting them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 And the red button in board? What is the mission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Absolutely insane to see the difference in performance with such a card. I hadn't even considered that route as I was pondering such an idea with Thunderbolt but knowing it of course doesn't have TB, completely forgetting this was a possibility. Now let's see some 3080 numbers! but regardless, cool to see! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 8:45 PM, Clint Thompson said: Absolutely insane to see the difference in performance with such a card. I hadn't even considered that route as I was pondering such an idea with Thunderbolt but knowing it of course doesn't have TB, completely forgetting this was a possibility. Now let's see some 3080 numbers! but regardless, cool to see! So I already have a TB3 based eGPU case, wonder if there is a miniPCI-e to Thunderbolt adapter... I mean it kind of defeats the purpose of a tiny, well designed case sitting under the TV. But what bloody fun! (it's late enough at night I can become partially British) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 This isn't Atari VCS, but it's a very similar project for the Raspberry Pi compute module. Some people would much prefer a Raspberry Pi 4, and so here is a starter for them. ? Your VCS upgrade project doesn't look so crazy now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS Comp Science Teacher Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I'm trying the same thing but I am not sure what cable to use from the VCS wifi m.2 to the riser. Can you please send me a link to where I can buy one? It's really cool what you did. Thanks for posting and well done! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS Comp Science Teacher Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 9:15 AM, andymanone said: Hi guys, like promised, here is my first successful PoC, connecting a NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB to the ATARI VCS ?. The monitor is directly connectet to the HDMI GTX Port and it works fine and for the very first test, better than accepted ?.) I´ve tested it with a PALIT KalmX GTX 1050 TI 4GB and a Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, which I just had at hand, but it should works of course with other/newer PCIe cards too. Each graphic cards are properly recognized at boot time and works well, as far as I can see.... (See some Screenshot attached) Cheers, andY I'm trying the same thing but I am not sure what cable to use from the VCS wifi m.2 to the riser. Can you please send me a link to where I can buy one? It's really cool what you did. Thanks for posting and well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) On 7/15/2021 at 10:20 PM, HS Comp Science Teacher said: I'm trying the same thing but I am not sure what cable to use from the VCS wifi m.2 to the riser. Can you please send me a link to where I can buy one? It's really cool what you did. Thanks for posting and well done! Thanks ?! Yes, of course I can provide the proper parts you need. 1. EXP GDC Beast Graphic Dock 2. HDMI to NGFF M.2 cable If you need both, then you can buy this one: Festnight External Card Graphics Dock NGFF M.2 A/E Key Version for V8.0 EXP GDC Beast If you own an EXP GDC Beast, than you only need the proper NGFF M.2 cable, like this: Fasient1 HDMI adapter cable, NGFF M.2 A / E key HDMI external graphics card line adapter (Keep in mind: only the NGFF M.2 cable works! You can find the difference in the last picture.) If you have any question, feel free to ask me. Cheers, andY Edited July 19, 2021 by andymanone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS Comp Science Teacher Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 7/19/2021 at 10:50 AM, andymanone said: Thanks ?! Yes, of course I can provide the proper parts you need. 1. EXP GDC Beast Graphic Dock 2. HDMI to NGFF M.2 cable If you need both, then you can buy this one: Festnight External Card Graphics Dock NGFF M.2 A/E Key Version for V8.0 EXP GDC Beast If you own an EXP GDC Beast, than you only need the proper NGFF M.2 cable, like this: Fasient1 HDMI adapter cable, NGFF M.2 A / E key HDMI external graphics card line adapter (Keep in mind: only the NGFF M.2 cable works! You can find the difference in the last picture.) If you have any question, feel free to ask me. Cheers, andY Thank you so much!! I just bought the part but am confused on two things. 1. How do I supply power to the graphics card dock? 2. What drivers do I need? Just the graphics card drivers? Again, you rock! Here's what it looks like so far: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, HS Comp Science Teacher said: Thank you so much!! I just bought the part but am confused on two things. 1. How do I supply power to the graphics card dock? 2. What drivers do I need? Just the graphics card drivers? Again, you rock! Sounds great ?! About your questions: 1. It´s very easy. Of course you´ll need an external ATX-Power Supply (you´ll see it on my pictures too). You have to connect it to the Dock and - if you use an powerful graphic card, also to the Power-connector on your graphic card. (of course you must connect the ATX24-Pin connector to the Dock too (this one with the only one green wire), to automatically "power on" the external Powersupply ) 2. After than the VCS recognize your graphic card automatically and you have only to install the latest Nvidia (oder Radeon) drivers for Win10 or Linux. Thats all . Good luck, and if you´ve further questions let me know.... Cheers, andY Edited August 5, 2021 by andymanone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marss Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Truly crazy setups? A video would be so cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS Comp Science Teacher Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:28 AM, marss said: Truly crazy setups? A video would be so cool. Sure. I had to buy a separate cable for my power supply to power the graphics card dock. It's on it's way but after I get this rig all setup, I'll make a video and post it. I'm using it to show my high school students and include it in my cyber security unit of my computer science class. Plus I'm a total Atari fanboy. lol... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, HS Comp Science Teacher said: Sure. I had to buy a separate cable for my power supply to power the graphics card dock. It's on it's way but after I get this rig all setup, I'll make a video and post it. I'm using it to show my high school students and include it in my cyber security unit of my computer science class. Plus I'm a total Atari fanboy. lol... Nice! Got Linux all set up on it then? Funny that they are teaching Cyber security in high school now. Was telling a friend of mine that is really the industry to be in now, considering all that goes on these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS Comp Science Teacher Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 2:25 AM, andymanone said: Sounds great ?! About your questions: 1. It´s very easy. Of course you´ll need an external ATX-Power Supply (you´ll see it on my pictures too). You have to connect it to the Dock and - if you use an powerful graphic card, also to the Power-connector on your graphic card. (of course you must connect the ATX24-Pin connector to the Dock too (this one with the only one green wire), to automatically "power on" the external Powersupply ) 2. After than the VCS recognize your graphic card automatically and you have only to install the latest Nvidia (oder Radeon) drivers for Win10 or Linux. Thats all . Good luck, and if you´ve further questions let me know.... Cheers, andY Can you please show me a picture of the PCIE "white" cord and how it plugs into the power supply? I tried and it started smoking! lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, HS Comp Science Teacher said: Can you please show me a picture of the PCIE "white" cord and how it plugs into the power supply? I tried and it started smoking! lol Ohhh! Holy cow?!!! What did you do? I'll post you tomorrow how I did the wiring. Cheers, andY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 Sorry, I´m late, but very busy last time. Like promised, here some pics of my Dock/PSU/GTX wiring. 1. Connect the CPU 12V 4pin connector from your PSU to the free 4 pin Dock connector(like shown below) 2. Connect the PSU "Mainboard connector" 24 pin (20+4 pin - the 4Pin part is detachable, like shown below) 3. If you use an graphic card with it´s own PCIe Power connector, so connect the 6 pin PCI-E connector from your PSU (like shown below) to your graphic card to Make sure that the yellow cables are connected to the other yellow cables and the black cables are connected to the black cables. For the 20+4 connection, make sure that the green cable is connected to the other green cable. That´s all . Now it should automatically power on, if you power on your VCS. Good luck, andY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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