Alan Willford Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Last month I bought a 800 and a Fujinet - which isn't working. Since I don't have any other 8 bits or SIO devices I have no idea if the Fujinet is defective....or if the SIO on my 800 is bad. Hoping someone lives nearby where I could swing by and see which piece is the issue. Like plugging the Fujinet into another 8 bit or a drive into my 800. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Well, I'm NE Ohio... Chances are good the FujiNet needs a firmware update (in fact, it's 100% certain you do, and you'll need one probably weekly for awhile)... With an 800, I also am fairly certain you need the USB power attached as well since I don't think 800's provide the power like some of the XL/XE series (I'm sure a dozen people will chime in on this by morning). So depending on where you might be in the NW part and you can't get it figured out, might be up for a trip... I've done a couple road trips in the past to visit some Atari people. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I'm also in NE. If the zombie apocalypse ever ends, maybe there can be a get together. Not many meetings close to where I am these days. Last show, was VCFMW which was a 6 hour drive one way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NISMOPC Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I'm located northern part of Columbus (Lewis Center), but as @Tillek stated, the 400/800 need to have the FujiNet powered by separate USB power. I would try that 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, NISMOPC said: I'm located northern part of Columbus (Lewis Center), but as @Tillek stated, the 400/800 need to have the FujiNet powered by separate USB power. I would try that 1st. So, that means the Atari Party is at your place? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Tillek said: I also am fairly certain you need the USB power attached as well since I don't think 800's provide the power like some of the XL/XE series (I'm sure a dozen people will chime in on this by morning). The 400/800 do provide power, but they boot so fast that the Fujinet isn't up yet when the machine looks for a boot device. The 400/800 also provide +12V on the SIO port, this feature was removed from later models. Edited January 22, 2021 by BillC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarland Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 If you are unable to get the Fuji working, why not buy another cheapish SIO device like an SIO2PC-USB? Not too far (1.5hrs+) from NW OH and would love to meet you guys. Keep me on the list. I'm good this weekend or whenever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, Sugarland said: If you are unable to get the Fuji working, why not buy another cheapish SIO device like an SIO2PC-USB? Not too far (1.5hrs+) from NW OH and would love to meet you guys. Keep me on the list. I'm good this weekend or whenever... Wait... that wouldn't make you from....... Michigan, would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarland Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Tillek said: Wait... that wouldn't make you from....... Michigan, would it? Does my beard look like it's from Michigan?! You are saying the mustache is the upper peninsula? Edited January 22, 2021 by Sugarland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I didn't realize there were so many Ohioans here! I'm also in NW Ohio. I've been using the Fujinet on my 800 without issue, but this 800 has an Incognito installed. Let me pull an 800 down this week and try it on a stock machine. Maybe we should have an Ohio Atari Party in '22? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 hours ago, Alan Willford said: Last month I bought a 800 and a Fujinet - which isn't working. Since I don't have any other 8 bits or SIO devices I have no idea if the Fujinet is defective....or if the SIO on my 800 is bad. Hoping someone lives nearby where I could swing by and see which piece is the issue. Like plugging the Fujinet into another 8 bit or a drive into my 800. Thanks. As mentioned earlier, the Fujinet requires USB power when used with an 800 so let's rule that out first. I'm in Indianapolis but I'd travel to an Atari party in Ohio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Willford Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 I do have a power connector to it. And when I opened up the 800 to see if there were any issues (and to reseat the chips) I noticed a few traces on the power supply board looked like they were flaking off. Testing the connections with a multi-meter seemed to show they were ok, but bought a new board from Best because it was cheap and well....not much faith that the current 40 year old power supply was working right anyhow. And earlier I was able to get it to work, but that involved plugging in in/out a bunch of times and rebooting the 800 a lot. Eventually I was able to get it working enough to flash the firmware and now I can go to the web address for the FujiNet when it is on and that part seems to be working ok. My wife asked me what I was trying to do and I told her the FujiNet would let it connect to the internet. She was "so....a computer that was never intended to get on the internet somehow needs that?". I think it is lost on her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Willford Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 hours ago, gozar said: I didn't realize there were so many Ohioans here! I'm also in NW Ohio. I've been using the Fujinet on my 800 without issue, but this 800 has an Incognito installed. Let me pull an 800 down this week and try it on a stock machine. Maybe we should have an Ohio Atari Party in '22? Which area? I'm out in Maumee. And christ...how many 800s do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, Alan Willford said: I do have a power connector to it. And when I opened up the 800 to see if there were any issues (and to reseat the chips) I noticed a few traces on the power supply board looked like they were flaking off. Testing the connections with a multi-meter seemed to show they were ok, but bought a new board from Best because it was cheap and well....not much faith that the current 40 year old power supply was working right anyhow. And earlier I was able to get it to work, but that involved plugging in in/out a bunch of times and rebooting the 800 a lot. Eventually I was able to get it working enough to flash the firmware and now I can go to the web address for the FujiNet when it is on and that part seems to be working ok. My wife asked me what I was trying to do and I told her the FujiNet would let it connect to the internet. She was "so....a computer that was never intended to get on the internet somehow needs that?". I think it is lost on her! Well, as far as the 800 is concerned, do you get the memo pad when you turn it on with no carts plugged in? Guess we could start there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 hours ago, gozar said: I didn't realize there were so many Ohioans here! I'm also in NW Ohio. I've been using the Fujinet on my 800 without issue, but this 800 has an Incognito installed. Let me pull an 800 down this week and try it on a stock machine. Maybe we should have an Ohio Atari Party in '22? 22? Pfffffft. I'm predicting that the media will be telling us everything is totally safe within in a few weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Willford Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, Tillek said: Well, as far as the 800 is concerned, do you get the memo pad when you turn it on with no carts plugged in? Guess we could start there. Yep. Memopad comes up fine with no cart installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Tillek said: 22? Pfffffft. I'm predicting that the media will be telling us everything is totally safe within in a few weeks. You called it, they're all on TV saying they have to 'open it up' and save the restaurants an blah blah blah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 5:38 PM, Alan Willford said: Which area? I'm out in Maumee. And christ...how many 800s do you have? I'm about 1.5 hours south of Maumee. And, I don't know, 7 or 8? A school district near me had an 800 lab, and I happened to be at the auction when they were getting rid of them so I got a bunch for a song. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Hey!! My Buckeye brothers!!! O-H!!! From the burbs of Cleveland!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 18 hours ago, scotty said: Hey!! My Buckeye brothers!!! O-H!!! From the burbs of Cleveland!!! Burbs of Akron here..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 18 hours ago, scotty said: Hey!! My Buckeye brothers!!! O-H!!! From the burbs of Cleveland!!! But watch out... there's a guy from Michigan around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 This guy from Michigan is a Spartan. The enemy of my enemy is my friend! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanr256 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I guess I'm the odd man out. I'm way down in SW Ohio and I don't have a FujiNet. I think I may have at least 2 800s though. -Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ryanr256 said: I guess I'm the odd man out. I'm way down in SW Ohio and I don't have a FujiNet. I think I may have at least 2 800s though. -Bob I went to Miami University and student taught at Centerville, does that help? @toddtmw is down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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