dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Looking for a disk based utility to check the drive speed (and any other disk diagnostics) for my 810 drive. My 800 is running on 32k currently and I can only run .ATR files from RespeQt for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 PS I have tried DOS 2.6f 2.8f and the screen just goes all wonky with garbage characters as it tries to boot these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Try this DOS 2.6F that has an RPM option: https://atari.fox-1.nl/atari-400-800-xl-xe/400-800-xl-xe-tools/dos-2-5f/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 that and 810's usually need de oxit and reseating after sitting around a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Nezgar said: Try this DOS 2.6F that has an RPM option: https://atari.fox-1.nl/atari-400-800-xl-xe/400-800-xl-xe-tools/dos-2-5f/ When this boots I get a screen of scrolling garbage characters....... Edited February 17, 2021 by dukes909 screwed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Ok try this one: https://atari.fox-1.nl/atari-400-800-xl-xe/400-800-xl-xe-tools/dskrpm/?hilite='Rpm' Boot with BASIC cart, at ready prompt type: RUN"D:DSKRPM.BAS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Smart Dos -- widely available. Several published in magazines. There was an early type-in from ANALOG -- SNAIL. Basic + ml, IIRC. Many disk editors had these utilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: that and 810's usually need de oxit and reseating after sitting around a long time Everything seems to work except reading the disk. If I try to do a disk directory, format etc the drive tries to complete the task but grinds back and forth without stopping, then I get an error 144. I thought maybe the RPM utility could at least check the speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nezgar said: Ok try this one: https://atari.fox-1.nl/atari-400-800-xl-xe/400-800-xl-xe-tools/dskrpm/?hilite='Rpm' Boot with BASIC cart, at ready prompt type: RUN"D:DSKRPM.BAS" This runs but it tries to use D1 where RespeQt is instead of D2 where my 810 is. I am looking at the listing but it is beyond me how to set the drive to 2.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, dukes909 said: This runs but it tries to use D1 where RespeQt is instead of D2 where my 810 is. I am looking at the listing but it is beyond me how to set the drive to 2.lol ok I changed the 810 and set it to 1 but when I run this it just does the grindy thing near the edge of the disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StickJock Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Set your drive to D1, but leave it off. After booting up with RespeQt at D1, clear slot D1 on it and power up your drive to test it as D1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, StickJock said: Set your drive to D1, but leave it off. After booting up with RespeQt at D1, clear slot D1 on it and power up your drive to test it as D1. ok I changed the 810 and set it to 1 but when I run this it just does the grindy thing near the edge of the disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 So it is trying to check the speed but nothing ever gets reported back. Any ideas? Usually I get a 144 or 128 error if I hit BREAk to stop the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 clean and re seat like I suggested, then clean the head, lube and make sure belts are on and all is spinning, then adjust RPM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: clean and re seat like I suggested, then clean the head, lube and make sure belts are on and all is spinning, then adjust RPM Reseat the cards? I’ve done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I did a couple of tests on my 1050s recently using my phone. It's now an option if you have a high FPS camera or LED flash. Though for me the video method seemed more accurate. I was planning to do a how-to thread about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 At this point I am looking for another 810 Tandon type drive that is working to swap parts with to figure this out. I have cleaned the card pin connectors and reseated them, the belt is intact and in good condition, and the head has been cleaned. The R/W head moves all the way back on power up and stops where it is supposed to. The drive head advances when trying to do reads (disk directory) or formats. But it doesn't get past that point. Running speed tests spins the disk but no information is returned on the speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 so clean and re insert chips... the pins oxidase in storage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: so clean and re insert chips... the pins oxidase in storage... Thanks. Is isopropyl alc ok or Deoxit like I did for the card pins? Edited February 17, 2021 by dukes909 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 deoxit is best but use what you have.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes909 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, _The Doctor__ said: deoxit is best but use what you have.. I have deoxit but the spray is messy and I don't have a light touch with the spray button..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Disk Speed Checker (1987)(Page 6).atr Disk Magic XL (1984)(Blakmagic Software).atr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Smartdos has a speed check option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1050 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Spray the table you are using and then transfer it with a toothpick or any other device that suites you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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