Ikrananka Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Jason_Atari said: Just wondering who has purchased one from outside the USA and what the postage costs have been. $13.54 to Canada (standard edition) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr SQL said: The AtariAge store is broken can you fix it? What are you talking about? ..Al 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Albert said: What are you talking about? You can safely ignore him. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Historian Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) I'm very late to the "Homebew" or "Developer" talk, but I wanted to add my thoughts because I'm arrogant enough to think my opinion matters! ? AtariAge and @Albert function as a "Publisher" who produces, packages, and gives royalties for games created by "Developers". No different than what happens in modern gaming. We are way past someone at home doing it all by themselves to produce, as @jaybird3rd said, "a humble 4K game in a plastic baggie—complete with a recycled cartridge board and shell, a scissor-cut label and a folded manual printed on a cheap home printer, and artwork drawn by the programmer on graph paper". Sure AA still uses recycled shells, but I can speak with experience when I say that Albert is very, very selective about what shells he will take in to use. I do not consider the games created and sold here as "Homebrew". You are, in my eyes, all capital D "Developers" and I fully support you and your efforts. Edited March 18, 2021 by The Historian I speak fluent typonese. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithbk Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Albert said: What are you talking about? ..Al "I want all the stuff for free, but at the last moment, it asks me for money. What can I do?" LOL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Propane13 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: I am pretty sure James was using his modded 2600. Which is know to have some timing problems, though this one doesn't look familiar. Could that be the reason for the power-on glitches? Or, is it likely a bankswitch problem? On 3/17/2021 at 2:00 PM, john_q_atari said: It's only a guess but if they have confidence in themselves and consider themselves pros, then I think they already amassed a set of materials, including potentially programmed carts (just need to make sure the right serial number goes to the right customer.) If so it could be as simple as just packing things up and shipping them out. Presumably they already lined up help to do that order fulfillment so maybe all orders would ship within 2 weeks of March 22nd. Just a guess on my part though. This is where I get worried. If there is indeed a bankswitching load bug, and they've potentially already burned the carts / have them ready to go, that could be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_q_atari Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Propane13 said: This is where I get worried. If there is indeed a bankswitching load bug, and they've potentially already burned the carts / have them ready to go, that could be a problem. I think any worry at this point is completely unwarranted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Propane13 said: Could that be the reason for the power-on glitches? Or, is it likely a bankswitch problem? This is where I get worried. If there is indeed a bankswitching load bug, and they've potentially already burned the carts / have them ready to go, that could be a problem. 1 hour ago, john_q_atari said: I think any worry at this point is completely unwarranted. Well, at some point in the stream when James says he has a cart, one of the Kitchens says something like, "You got a cart that works?" laughingly. Makes me wonder if they had some issues initially. Hopefully those have all been resolved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange808 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I know there is disagreement, but the terms "homebrew" and "hack" have both developed negative connotations and perceptions in the general gaming community. I'm not pretending to be down with the kids (in fact saying "down with" is likely faux pas), but I don't see how the words can be saved if the evangelists (*that's us*) are getting old. The incredible hacks on this site are mods. They should be labeled as mods. That term commands the respect the software deserves. Homebrew should be abolished completely. It's new software. Just my two cents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Oh, that sucks. I like the word homebrew. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, splendidnut said: Oh, that sucks. I like the word homebrew. What if some people brew outside their home? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said: What if some people brew outside their home? Where would they be brewing: Work-brew? Coffee shop-brew? Picnic-table brew? Back porch brew? In the woods brew? Addendum: Although coffee-shop brew would lead to some confusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, splendidnut said: Where would they be brewing: Work-brew? Coffee shop-brew? Picnic-table brew? Back porch brew? In the woods brew? I've done some garagebrew, carbrew, and parkbrew. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I've done airplane brew in the past. So, I demand AirBrewer. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jstick Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 41 minutes ago, orange808 said: the terms "homebrew" and "hack" have both developed negative connotations and perceptions in the general gaming community. I don't think "hack" is perceived as negative by the gaming community: one only needs to take a look at romhacking.net, YouTube gaming channels, RPG forums etc. to see how popular game hacks are with streamers, speedrunners, translation fans and others. (Of course among the general population, "hack" has taken on a negative if not criminal association) As far as homebrew, I think that is more of a term used in development circles, and one that younger users might not be familiar with (aside from the console mod scene). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, orange808 said: I know there is disagreement, but the terms "homebrew" and "hack" have both developed negative connotations and perceptions in the general gaming community. Why should we care about the general gaming community? One of the best thing about this community is that is a small group of people that likes to play, collect or program new games for a 40 years old console the general public don't care about. And because of this the only motivation is that we have fun in doing it. I like to live in a world where most people don't even know what an "Atari VCS" is... 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos6507 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 8:35 PM, DrVenkman said: You know I already posted the closest thing to an "official" U.S. inflation calculator that exists, right? In fact, the BLS's tables have been the standard inflation calculators, used by economists and financial planners across broad industry spectra for decades, since well before the internet even existed. Here it is again in case you missed it. U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Consumer Price Index Inflation Calculator I don't see that coming up with a figure different from mine. Is there some remaining controversy here I'm missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, mos6507 said: I don't see that coming up with a figure different from mine. Is there some remaining controversy here I'm missing? Only that your comment and citation was superfluous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos6507 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, alex_79 said: Why should we care about the general gaming community? One of the best thing about this community is that is a small group of people that likes to play, collect or program new games for a 40 years old console the general public don't care about. And because of this the only motivation is that we have fun in doing it. I like to live in a world where most people don't even know what an "Atari VCS" is... Well, we don't live in that world. We live in a world where the central McGuffin of a big-budget Spielberg movie is a famous Atari 2600 easter-egg. The retrogaming hobby was niche back in the mid 90s after the 2600 was considered passe' and the gaming public was engaged in the bit-wars treadmill but it's been a mainstream niche of gaming at least since the first commercial emulators came out, followed by the endless Flashbacks, etc... I was thinking things had fizzled off but apparently not, thanks to the perseverance of homebrewers and the influx of newfound enthusiasm from younger demographics (as theorized upthread). It is true in any special interest that there are only ever a small group of the most hardcore enthusiasts, though. That doesn't mean these are the only ones we should consider part of the hobby. Level of engagement fades off and becomes more casual but it's still part of the mix. Edited March 19, 2021 by mos6507 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 hours ago, orange808 said: I know there is disagreement, but the terms "homebrew" and "hack" have both developed negative connotations and perceptions in the general gaming community. I'm not pretending to be down with the kids (in fact saying "down with" is likely faux pas), but I don't see how the words can be saved if the evangelists (*that's us*) are getting old. The incredible hacks on this site are mods. They should be labeled as mods. That term commands the respect the software deserves. Homebrew should be abolished completely. It's new software. Just my two cents. I think we should just call everything "game" and be done with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I don't know about you all, but I'm really forward to getting my game. I hope they issue all of the rom files on the 22nd otherwise I'll wither in agony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, orange808 said: “...the terms "homebrew" and "hack" have both developed negative connotations and perceptions in the general gaming community...” ...just sayin’... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 hours ago, CPUWIZ said: I've done airplane brew in the past. So, I demand AirBrewer. I used to be a Trainbrewer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, chad5200 said: What am I missing here? I don’t understand what you’re talking about. I don’t see any signs being held up. Some of his games got reviewed and were not liked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 16 hours ago, 5-11under said: I've done some garagebrew, carbrew, and parkbrew. 16 hours ago, CPUWIZ said: I've done airplane brew in the past. So, I demand AirBrewer. 7 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: I used to be a Trainbrewer. 1. Darn, you are taking all my entries. I add: commutebrew and porcelain-thronebrew. 2. I am bewildered by those billboard/sign / zph episode comments above, but please don't explain it to me in this thread either. 3. Homebrew - I don't know how this beer-made-at-home terminology first got applied to making games for vintage hardware. I have never been ashamed of the term "homebrew" games because I experienced first-hand how excellent they were. I think the purest term might simply be, "Aftermarket Software". The prime market is gone; developers continue to make products which may be free or paid-for, in the aftermarket. 4. I want to play Circus Convoy someday. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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