+Ksarul Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Based on a request by several members here, I did some verification of the GROM and Mask ROM numbers from TI cartridges. I have a lot more data, but this list only contains the part numbers that I was physically able to verify today from boards in my board box. I'll add more as time allows. Updated file to V3 Updated file to V4 April 14, 2021 -This update includes a lot of new data, including GROM numbers for all 12 of the Scott Foresman Reading modules. Updated file to V5 April 16, 2021 -Now includes data provided by @humeurand @Flottmann1, along with some more of my US and European cartridges. Updated file to V6 April 16,2021 -Now includes more data provided by @humeurand @Flottmann1, along with some more of my US and European cartridges (and including the rest of my unreleased Qual cartridges). -Missing: Household Money Management (I have to dig mine out), some of the EU variants of Wumpus (again, I need to go digging), SMU Circuit Analysis 1 (I have to dig out my GROM for that one), Computer Math Games I, Computer Math Games IV, Key to Spanish, Advertizer (I suspect all of these are on EGROM boards, but if anyone has a real GROM, we need the number), Scott Foresman School Management modules (I have to dig these out), and Fractions 1. I also need to look at the GROM numbers in the MB Gamevision cartridges to see if they fit in too. GROM List V6.odt 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 There was a single page listing published by TI with all of the GROM parts numbers. I had a copy and ordered some EA GROMs directly from them. I hope I can locate my copy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 I think I may have had a copy of that list at one time also, although I'm not sure it was complete, as it may not have had the GROMs for the unreeased cartridges that had completed their Qual runs (using real GROM chips). I did find one interesting thing while putting this list together--I have found a number of multiple GROM cartridges that actually use one of the GROMs through the entire series. All of the Milliken Math Sequences cartridges use CD2278, with the rest of the GROMs being specific to each cartridge. I haven't tried to investigate the GROM yet, but it is most likely for the School Management functions, since those would be the same across all of them. I need to look inside one of my dual title Qual units, as that may tell me some more about this (the dual-title cartridges boot straight into the Management screens unless you are holding the space bar down on boot). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+helocast Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Not the best copy I've seen, but maybe this will help y'all fill out a few of the missing ones. I checked a few and they seem to match off the list CD+four digit number of TI's part number. Doug 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Thanks--this is very useful. Note the prices for the cartridge shell parts back then. . .at that price, even a thousand of them would have been relatively cheap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 One of the more bizarre/hard to find ones is verifed too--the part number for the Argentine Spanish GROM 0. I've been using this list from Mr. Sheets to make some updates. Here's an update. Much more to follow as I do more digging (and verifying the first parts of the part numbers to get some of the later stuff and various localized GROMs into the list). See first post for current V3 file. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+acadiel Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 And these are already all likely in your list, but this has roms from not only the TI, but Speak and Spell, calculators, etc. The four digit codes were part of a bigger numbering scheme.https://atariage.com/forums/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=816989 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Here is another fun pair for you: the GROMs for the Disk Manager 3 cartridge: CD4443 and CD4444. They only escaped TI installed in the 150 or so cartridges in the Qualification run for the module, as it never went into full production. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 I also discovered another interesting GROM tidbit: TI apparently designed a GROM (CD4326) with the sole purpose of launching a ROM cartridge image. They only needed this GROM and the Mask ROM with the actual program in it. So far, I have found four cartridges that used this launcher GROM: Early LOGO Learning Fun, Sneggit, Crossfire, and Hopper. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+acadiel Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Do you have the SMU GROM? Or do you need me to open my qual cart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 9 hours ago, acadiel said: Do you have the SMU GROM? Or do you need me to open my qual cart? I have one of the GROMs somewhere in my collection. I bought a small box of random GROM chips about 20 years ago--and that was in the set. Those chips in that box were actually the main reason for my first attempt at making a GROM list. I was a bit stupid though, as I made the list on paper and then promptly misplaced it, LOLOL. I came across it just once in the last 20 years, so I know I still have it--just not where. I'll let you know if you need to open the cart to read the numbers. I just have to pull out my box of chips soon anyway, as I think it had some other odd ones in it too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 Scott Foresman seemed to like the idea of multiple uses for a single GROM as well. Several of the Math modules use CD4361 in addition to the other distinct GROMs in these cartridges. I'm still compiling a complete list, but so far, four cartridges use this scheme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humeur Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 multiplan cd 4349 4350 4351 4352 4353 Scott foresman addition and Substraction I 2134 2135 2136 Minus mission Cd 4303 4304 alien addition 4332 4333 E/A 2204 Extented basic 4 groms 2114 2115 one over the other rom cd 3225 or 1501392-25 and cd 6406 or 1041016-06 Diagnostic 2006 ti writer 2294 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humeur Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 demonstration 2024 2025 2026 schachmeister phm 30082022 2047 2048 2048 rom cd 3209 munchman GB 2221 1501392-29 Personal Record Keeping D and I 2242 2243 2061 2062 2063 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flottmann1 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 and this Addition and Subtraction 2134,2135,2136 Adventure 2154 Alien Addition 4332,4333 Buchungsjournal 2056,2057,2058 ROM:D2110 Buck Rogers 5284,5285 Computergraphik 2041,2042 Congo Bongo 5296,5297 + CD6453 Connect Four 2213 Datenverwaltung 2061,2062,2063 + CD2242, CD2243 Decimals 2288,2289 CD2278 Demo (german) 2037,2038,2039,2040 Demolition Division 4301,4302 Demonstration 2024,2025,2026,2027 Division 1 2236,2237,2238,2239 Early Logo Learning Fun 4326 + CD6415 Editor Assembler 2204 Facemaker 4445,4446 + CD6427 Fathom 5321,5322,5323 +CD6419 Fractions 2286,2287 (2278) Fractions 2 4371,4372,4373 +CD4361 Frog Jump 2268,2269 Hopper 4326 Indivitual Accounting 2056,2057,2058 + CD2110 Microsoft Multiplan 4349,4350,4351,4352,4353 Mission Plus 4332,4333 Moonsweeper 5227,5228,5229 +1041016-52 Number Bowling 2264,2265 Personal Record Keeping 2061,2061,2063,2240,2241 Physical Fitness 2007,2008 Picture Parts 2270,2271 Pyramid Puzzler 2274,2275 Star Maze 2272,2273 Statisics German 2065,2066,2067,2068,2059 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 Merci beaucoup, @humeur. I've been working through my collection a bit at a time--but this definitely helps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humeur Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 99/4 euro 2003 2004 2005 rom 1501392-7 1501392-8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flottmann1 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Echecs (F) 2085,2086,2087 +CD2022 Video Spiele 2 GB,D,F CD2101 TI CALC CD4454 + CD6423, CD 6424 Gestion Privee (F) 4461,4462,4463 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flottmann1 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) MBX Carts Bigfoot 5221 Championship Baseball 5216,5217,5218 Sewermania 5237,5238 Space Bandits 5231,5232 Superfly 5242,5243 Meteor Belt 5226 Soundtrack Trolley 5267 Terry Turtle's Adventure 5257,5258,5259 I'M Hiding 5277,5278 Honey Hunt 5247,5248,5249 Space Journey 2266,2267 Test Trainer 1 - Examinateur 1 - Examiner 1 2054,2055 Edited April 16, 2021 by Flottmann1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humeur Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 plato Rom 1041016-09 ti logo french 4415 4399 2257 2256 rom 1041016-05 fitness training 2044 2045 statistik 2059 Grom0 dutch 2065 2066 2067 2068 gestion privée 4461 4462 4463 Hunt the Wumpus (NL) I D CD2096 Number magic 2043 2046 multi langue TI calc cd 4454 rom cd 6423 cd6424 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flottmann1 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) Early Logo Learning Fun CD 4326 + CD6415 Fractions CD2278, CD2286,CD2287 Hopper CD4326, + 1041016-36 Sneggit CD4326, + 1041016-14 Gamevision Hangman 4966 (Picture) Edited April 17, 2021 by Flottmann1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Flottmann1 said: ...I never thought I'd see you again! Posterior view please!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, HOME AUTOMATION said: Posterior view please!!! This ain't the place for kinks, mate. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flottmann1 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 back 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Thanx! My bottom was a little bit different ...no laminate ...less copper fill, with more solder ...I recall a small bare wire or two, embedded in the solder. Like they thought... maybe it's gonna get hit by lightning or somethin'. P.S. This module + RECORD KEEPING... is where/why I learned about the CS1-O-Matic trick! I meant to dedicate it too. P.P.S. Who doesn't think this is SEXY!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like us on Facebook
Follow us on Twitter
AtariAge on Instagram
Watch us on YouTube
Chat on Discord
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.