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Hey y'all

 

As a general statement, this VCS has been WAAAY more difficult to setup than it should have been. Atari left far to much to the end user to do-backer release or not.

 

After months of trouble shooting (mostly solo) I finally have the VCS optimized to do what I want on it. And yes, you can play four player PTB Clone Hero (with the pro drums) at 200+FPS with the VCS maxed out and 6 gigs dedicated to the video ram. This machine is far more capable than Atari is presently willing/able to support it... Let us hope that history does not remember the VCS as the Jaguar 3 :((((

 

Additionally, the way to load Windows 10 from an M.2 (the only way to do what I described above-good luck doing any of that on an external through USB) is proof that Atari does not really know what they have created. To have to log into the bios to launch Windows is one of the most backwards non-intuitive things I have ever seen a game company do to a product that was built and advertised to do a feature like PC Mode as one of its main capabilities. I really hope this way of logging into an M.2 through the backdoor (and the google chrome update) comes through soon...

 

Now, back to the point of my post. The only way to initiate the bios is to push escape on the keyboard. I am using a Logitech K400 wireless USB dongle keyboard. It takes 5-6 tries (or more) of resetting the VCS to get into the bios using this keyboard, as if it is not registering inside the VCS in time that I am pressing the escape key on my keyboard to enter the bios. I will get it to respond eventually and let me in to launch windows 10 from my m.2, but it is never consistent.  Is this happening because I am using a wireless USB dongle keyboard? Is a wired keyboard consistent? 

 

Thanks for the help!

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6 hours ago, Destro 83 said:

Hey y'all

 

As a general statement, this VCS has been WAAAY more difficult to setup than it should have been. Atari left far to much to the end user to do-backer release or not.

 

After months of trouble shooting (mostly solo) I finally have the VCS optimized to do what I want on it. And yes, you can play four player PTB Clone Hero (with the pro drums) at 200+FPS with the VCS maxed out and 6 gigs dedicated to the video ram. This machine is far more capable than Atari is presently willing/able to support it... Let us hope that history does not remember the VCS as the Jaguar 3 :((((

 

Additionally, the way to load Windows 10 from an M.2 (the only way to do what I described above-good luck doing any of that on an external through USB) is proof that Atari does not really know what they have created. To have to log into the bios to launch Windows is one of the most backwards non-intuitive things I have ever seen a game company do to a product that was built and advertised to do a feature like PC Mode as one of its main capabilities. I really hope this way of logging into an M.2 through the backdoor (and the google chrome update) comes through soon...

 

Now, back to the point of my post. The only way to initiate the bios is to push escape on the keyboard. I am using a Logitech K400 wireless USB dongle keyboard. It takes 5-6 tries (or more) of resetting the VCS to get into the bios using this keyboard, as if it is not registering inside the VCS in time that I am pressing the escape key on my keyboard to enter the bios. I will get it to respond eventually and let me in to launch windows 10 from my m.2, but it is never consistent.  Is this happening because I am using a wireless USB dongle keyboard? Is a wired keyboard consistent? 

 

Thanks for the help!

I have a Logitech K400+ wireless keyboard (almost the same, huh) and a Rapoo wireless keyboard+mouse set.
I never had any problem with the Logitech, the range being much better incidentally. Perhaps the battery is low?
As the USB device is constantly paired, and needs no device setup, as it appears as a normal USB keyboard, it
should react as easily. (As I'm typing this via the VCS right now, I'll do an immediate test, but I'll check tomorrow
if I am just having good luck or if there is something I am missing, but as I said, I've perhaps had 1-2 failures total.)
F12 also brings up the boot menu, and it should be possible to add it to that, I just didn't try, as I am using Windows
from an external USB 3.1 SSD, and have my internal M2 SATA for storage, which I share with an Ubuntu USB SSD.
As I wrote, I'll have a play around and see if I can work out what the difference is with our Logitech keyboards. :-)

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Thanks for the friendly reply!

 

So, it may be the battery, but those suckers were just charged and should last three years between charges (the last regular batteries lasted that long). You never know though! Something to eliminate...

 

I did some more messing around on my VCS last night and I plugged a wired keyboard into the front. Works like a charm every time. To add more information to my experimenting to get the right set up, I think the powered USB strip I have is what is doing it. It is a seven port USB strip that is plugged into the back. When the Logitech is plugged into it (or it the usb strip is plugged in at all and the dongle is just plugged into the front of the VCS), I have the issue of it barely working. When I unplug the USB strip and just plug the Logitech in, it works fine, but this defeats my purpose of having a powered strip plugged in all the time so I can hook four instruments and two wireless accessories up at once. I think the number of things plugged in and how the potential lag of the USB strip communicating with the VCS that is doing it. Additionally, the wired keyboard works perfectly with everything hooked up. I have a wired keyboard I use for my Switch, so until Atari fixes this on the backend, I should be good. PITA, but that's part of tinkering. Again I say though, this should not be activities bound to the tink list for an advertised and capable feature....

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2 hours ago, Destro 83 said:

Thanks for the friendly reply!

My pleasure, of course! I'm always trying to learn and pass on what I find out, to help. 🙂

I did the test today, as I promised, with my K400+, and I didn't get one failure with it.
Your explanation about the USB hub sounds logical. 
I have the dongle in the front-left port of my VCS permanently, and a USB disk drive in the back.

I do have a mini USB-hub, but for the USB disk drive(s) I tend to use the back ports. Old habits
from the ZX Spectrum perhaps, of plugging things needlessly into the back of a computer, ha ha.

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On 5/4/2021 at 10:26 AM, Destro 83 said:

Hey y'all

 

As a general statement, this VCS has been WAAAY more difficult to setup than it should have been. Atari left far to much to the end user to do-backer release or not.

 

After months of trouble shooting (mostly solo) I finally have the VCS optimized to do what I want on it. And yes, you can play four player PTB Clone Hero (with the pro drums) at 200+FPS with the VCS maxed out and 6 gigs dedicated to the video ram. This machine is far more capable than Atari is presently willing/able to support it... Let us hope that history does not remember the VCS as the Jaguar 3 :((((

 

Additionally, the way to load Windows 10 from an M.2 (the only way to do what I described above-good luck doing any of that on an external through USB) is proof that Atari does not really know what they have created. To have to log into the bios to launch Windows is one of the most backwards non-intuitive things I have ever seen a game company do to a product that was built and advertised to do a feature like PC Mode as one of its main capabilities. I really hope this way of logging into an M.2 through the backdoor (and the google chrome update) comes through soon...

 

Now, back to the point of my post. The only way to initiate the bios is to push escape on the keyboard. I am using a Logitech K400 wireless USB dongle keyboard. It takes 5-6 tries (or more) of resetting the VCS to get into the bios using this keyboard, as if it is not registering inside the VCS in time that I am pressing the escape key on my keyboard to enter the bios. I will get it to respond eventually and let me in to launch windows 10 from my m.2, but it is never consistent.  Is this happening because I am using a wireless USB dongle keyboard? Is a wired keyboard consistent? 

 

Thanks for the help!

Uh.... what would be the Jaguar 2?

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Oh whoops. My memory failed me... The Jaguar CD was a module not a standalone console...

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