donnerkuh Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I have a problem. My program-code works fine... but one thing doesn´t happen: the shot (joy0fire) works in any combination, instead of joy0left + joy0up and joy0fire. If this combination is true then no shot will be fired. Why? I can´t find the bug. Please help. ? Destruction_Machine007_need_help.bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXmarsh Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I haven't looked at your code but I recall as similar issue when I was working on my game 'Heist'. When running in stella and using the keyboard as joystick inputs, it wouldn't fire in that one combination either. If I plugged a usb joystick into my computer and used that... it worked. I believe it has something to do with the way the keyboard buffer works on some computers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stephena Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Keyboards are Evil 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevKelley Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/9/2021 at 11:34 AM, TXmarsh said: I haven't looked at your code but I recall as similar issue when I was working on my game 'Heist'. When running in stella and using the keyboard as joystick inputs, it wouldn't fire in that one combination either. If I plugged a usb joystick into my computer and used that... it worked. I believe it has something to do with the way the keyboard buffer works on some computers. I had this same issue in my game Cone Ball. I had created two players that can move around and fire. Player0 would experience the same problem, but only in Stella. I tried on hardware and in other emulators, like Z26, and it operated as normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, KevKelley said: Player0 would experience the same problem, but only in Stella. It would be nice if you report any issues you have with Stella. Else we cannot fix them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Be sure to use the Ctrl key instead of the space bar for the fire button since the space bar can stop you from moving diagonally with the arrow keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevKelley Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 6:39 AM, Thomas Jentzsch said: It would be nice if you report any issues you have with Stella. Else we cannot fix them. How does one do that? It was something I had not thought of, as I thought at the time it was a known issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Either here on AtariAge in the latest Stella thread (currently here). Or create a GitHub account and report here. The latter is the preferred way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 1:05 PM, Random Terrain said: Be sure to use the Ctrl key instead of the space bar for the fire button since the space bar can stop you from moving diagonally with the arrow keys. Looks like this is no Stella bug, but a keyboard limitation too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Looks like this is no Stella bug, but a keyboard limitation too. Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_(key) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnerkuh Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 Thanks for help - it is a Stella-thing. In Z26 Emulator the robot fires in combination with joy0up and joy0left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, donnerkuh said: Thanks for help - it is a Stella-thing. In Z26 Emulator the robot fires in combination with joy0up and joy0left. Please post your ROM for testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stephena Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 4 hours ago, donnerkuh said: Thanks for help - it is a Stella-thing. In Z26 Emulator the robot fires in combination with joy0up and joy0left. It's not a 'Stella' thing. It's a 'using space for fire with other keys for direction gives a keyboard issue' thing. If you use the Left Control key in Stella to fire (like in z26), then it will probably act the same way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnerkuh Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 Sorry - i was inaccurate - it´s a donnerkuh-thing. Stella works so fine since i use it (10 years or more) that i never had to check the settings or wondered about something. This was the reason why i thought that my basic-code had a bug. If i use Stella with Left Control key it fires. My bad english did the rest. I will never think again that "real batari basic coders don´t need manuals". As compensation i will try to make a good game... not using the space-key but using Stella, the best Atari-Emulator i´ve ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 9 hours ago, donnerkuh said: it´s a donnerkuh-thing a thunder cow thing? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 I think batari BASIC users all go through the phase where we don't understand how bad the keyboard is (as a joystick). Get a cheap USB joystick and test your game with that. I use a spare Xbox One joystick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnerkuh Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, SpiceWare said: a thunder cow thing? ? sounds a little bit ugly, but yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, donnerkuh said: sounds a little bit ugly, but yes. I've been relearning German (had a few years in high school in the early 80s) via Duolingo and thought perhaps it was a compound word like Haustier (house animal) for pet or Wasserstoff (water material) for hydrogen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 The beauty of German. You can create any word you like. E.g. Donaudampfschifffahrtskapitänspatent (Danube Steamship Captain's Patent) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnerkuh Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, SpiceWare said: I've been relearning German (had a few years in high school in the early 80s) via Duolingo and thought perhaps it was a compound word like Haustier (house animal) for pet or Wasserstoff (water material) for hydrogen. It´s my ingame-nick (World of Tanks, World of Warcraft,...). Kuh or cow is part of my surname (Kuhmann) and thunder will fear my enemys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Karl G Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (Okay, I guess this is a lightning cow, but still apropos) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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