jlandor Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) Hi Everyone. Are there shrink-wrapped new hardware solutions on the market that do the job of a 600/800XL? And a 1050 disk drive? I have heaps of cartridges & 5.25" games which I can't use now as my 600XL & 1050 are both dead. I am not a hardware literate so I can't do maintenance on these. I was vaguely interested in the Brewing Academy's 1088XEL/XLD options, but they offer a heap of hardware options which I can't navigate. I also can't find in Australia any second-hand 600/800XLs for sale. Any help would be appreciated. cheers, Jonathan Edited June 16, 2021 by jlandor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarland Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 No new shrink-wrapped hardware out there unless you want to emulate. Suggest you get them both repaired. That is your best option IMO. You'll need to mail them to someone with Atari 8bit specific repair skills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlandor Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 thanks Sugerland. I figured that may be the case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzspeed Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 As an Australian I scored my 600XL only recently for a great price, got it sent from WA to Melbourne. They are available, you just need to be patient. You aren't running the Ingot power supply on your 600xl are you? If so, try another PSU before writing the machine off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdivancic Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 On 6/16/2021 at 2:45 AM, jlandor said: Hi Everyone. Are there shrink-wrapped new hardware solutions on the market that do the job of a 600/800XL? And a 1050 disk drive? I have heaps of cartridges & 5.25" games which I can't use now as my 600XL & 1050 are both dead. I am not a hardware literate so I can't do maintenance on these. I was vaguely interested in the Brewing Academy's 1088XEL/XLD options, but they offer a heap of hardware options which I can't navigate. I also can't find in Australia any second-hand 600/800XLs for sale. Any help would be appreciated. cheers, Jonathan Why don’t you reach out to the owner of the Brewing Academy? I’m sure he would be glad to help you navigate the options so you could make a decision. Also if you are can wait a little there is this: The worlds smallest Atari 8-bit There is also this, although it seems to have stalled: éclaireXL There may be others out there but this could get you started. Anything this day and age is going to require some work on your part. I would also recommend you take some time to see if you can fix your 600xl yourself. The are easy machines to troubleshoot and there are plenty of people here who would be willing to help you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, mdivancic said: Also if you are can wait a little there is this: The worlds smallest Atari 8-bit https://thebrewingacademy.com/collections/myteks-576nuc-atari-computer the ordering links for the 576NUC+ are up so you can get an idea of cost, they will go live soon. I'm biased as I am on the beta team for this device but for the cost I don't think it can be beat for a modern solution using original chips. As for the 1050 that's going to be a little more difficult if you really want to use real disks. If not then get the NUC with the FUJINET option and you should be good to go. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreDecker Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, mdivancic said: Why don’t you reach out to the owner of the Brewing Academy? I’m sure he would be glad to help you navigate the options so you could make a decision. Also if you are can wait a little there is this: The worlds smallest Atari 8-bit There is also this, although it seems to have stalled: éclaireXL There may be others out there but this could get you started. Anything this day and age is going to require some work on your part. I would also recommend you take some time to see if you can fix your 600xl yourself. The are easy machines to troubleshoot and there are plenty of people here who would be willing to help you. Funny, that. I saw a video on youtube yesterday going into the Eclaire. Looks rather great, especially with native cartridge compatibility. Hopefully they'll get back on track. As for repairing - yeah, depending on issue - maybe there's a chip loose in a socket, a failing capacitor, dying power supply (as was said, beware the ingots for they will do nothing but create big paperweights), or other things. Heck, a dying chip will start to produce heat -which only accelerates the process. Heatsinks probably wouldn't hurt, but they will last only for so long before the internals wear out anyway... the resistors look as if they'll outlast everything else by far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdivancic Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 hours ago, orpheuswaking said: https://thebrewingacademy.com/collections/myteks-576nuc-atari-computer the ordering links for the 576NUC+ are up so you can get an idea of cost, they will go live soon. I'm biased as I am on the beta team for this device but for the cost I don't think it can be beat for a modern solution using original chips. That’s a good price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, mdivancic said: That’s a good price! I was surprised when it went up at how cost effective it is. Even fully loaded with a FujiNet, case and SIO adapter it's a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I may have to look into one of these myself. It would be great to add to my 800XL, 600XL and 1088XEL that I need to finish troubleshooting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thag Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 On 6/17/2021 at 6:55 AM, orpheuswaking said: https://thebrewingacademy.com/collections/myteks-576nuc-atari-computer the ordering links for the 576NUC+ are up so you can get an idea of cost, they will go live soon. I'm biased as I am on the beta team for this device but for the cost I don't think it can be beat for a modern solution using original chips. As for the 1050 that's going to be a little more difficult if you really want to use real disks. If not then get the NUC with the FUJINET option and you should be good to go. I was just looking at this. I've been waiting for an affordably priced modern equivalent. When do you expect we can order? I'm so getting one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Lord Thag said: I was just looking at this. I've been waiting for an affordably priced modern equivalent. When do you expect we can order? I'm so getting one of these. Now!!! they went live today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thag Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, orpheuswaking said: Now!!! they went live today. Hot damn, I FINALLY was on here at the right time to nab one of these projects. Can't wait. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlandor Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 On 6/17/2021 at 6:45 PM, Mazzspeed said: As an Australian I scored my 600XL only recently for a great price, got it sent from WA to Melbourne. They are available, you just need to be patient. You aren't running the Ingot power supply on your 600xl are you? If so, try another PSU before writing the machine off. It's a new power supply that I got from 8-bit classics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlandor Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 On 6/17/2021 at 11:32 PM, mdivancic said: Why don’t you reach out to the owner of the Brewing Academy? I’m sure he would be glad to help you navigate the options so you could make a decision. Also if you are can wait a little there is this: The worlds smallest Atari 8-bit There is also this, although it seems to have stalled: éclaireXL There may be others out there but this could get you started. Anything this day and age is going to require some work on your part. I would also recommend you take some time to see if you can fix your 600xl yourself. The are easy machines to troubleshoot and there are plenty of people here who would be willing to help you. thanks Mike. I'll take a look at the new hardware and repairs options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlandor Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 On 6/18/2021 at 12:17 AM, CommodoreDecker said: Funny, that. I saw a video on youtube yesterday going into the Eclaire. Looks rather great, especially with native cartridge compatibility. Hopefully they'll get back on track. As for repairing - yeah, depending on issue - maybe there's a chip loose in a socket, a failing capacitor, dying power supply (as was said, beware the ingots for they will do nothing but create big paperweights), or other things. Heck, a dying chip will start to produce heat -which only accelerates the process. Heatsinks probably wouldn't hurt, but they will last only for so long before the internals wear out anyway... the resistors look as if they'll outlast everything else by far... thanks Decker. Unfortunately I'm not hardware literate so I wouldn't know where to start on the PCB. I did open my case though and pulled out the chips, cleaned the contacts and replaced them, but this didn't fix the machine. Grrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdivancic Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 7 hours ago, jlandor said: thanks Decker. Unfortunately I'm not hardware literate so I wouldn't know where to start on the PCB. I did open my case though and pulled out the chips, cleaned the contacts and replaced them, but this didn't fix the machine. Grrr. Do you get any type of video output or sound? Power LED? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlandor Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 16 hours ago, mdivancic said: Do you get any type of video output or sound? Power LED? Hi Mike. The red power LED comes on with the new power supply, but no audio/video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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