+Larry Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 They have come a long way, but which was the first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Just to clarify, re-programmable? i.e. Not just a cart with lots of titles on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 when it comes to cartridges on which you could save several programs and select from the menu or using a switch, such designs were already available in the 80s (eprom / eeprom / ram-battery) but with flash memories, I do not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Wrathchild said: Just to clarify, re-programmable? i.e. Not just a cart with lots of titles on? Yes, I was not including eproms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 so... SiDiCar 1992 (reprogrammable - included battery backed RAM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) RAM-CART (92 ?) was created on the basis of SiDiCar, recently it even underwent a facelift and is available in 64K- 32MB versions Edited June 26, 2021 by xxl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 Do you have any links to descriptions, etc.? All I can come up with are side cars for motorcycles. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 SiDiCAR http://tajemnice.atari8.info/8_92/8_92_dyskkrzemowy.html http://tajemnice.atari8.info/8_92/8_92_slowko.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 RAM-CART in action: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pps Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) The TurboFreezer by Engel (late 80's) was able to save the whole RAM and restore it immediately, so maybe it counts in, too. Remember of a ROM-Disk even then - akku puffered RAM. Owned none of those Edited June 26, 2021 by pps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Slightly related, was Multi Cart a clone of The Pill or the other way around...I never remember...(Yeah I know its basically a cart dongle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 SunMark made some of the first Multicarts for the Atari 8-bits. https://comp.sys.atari.8bit.narkive.com/X4gmfBdm/review-of-sunmark-s-multicart-2 I have a few of them and my favorite one was Datasoft Games! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 But can the user reprogram it? However, Sumark did do a Hollex cart but I don't know if that pre-dates the AtariMax? https://web.archive.org/web/20030605091424/http://www.hollex.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 3 hours ago, tjlazer said: SunMark made some of the first Multicarts for the Atari 8-bits. https://comp.sys.atari.8bit.narkive.com/X4gmfBdm/review-of-sunmark-s-multicart-2 I have a few of them and my favorite one was Datasoft Games! Did anyone ever dump these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 6 hours ago, tjlazer said: SunMark made some of the first Multicarts for the Atari 8-bits. I had a couple of these but traded them off a few years ago, except for my all Synapse games one. @Mclaneinc - I tried briefly to dump my SunMark Synapse cart but didn't have much luck the first couple of attempts so I gave up rather quickly. I meant to get back to it at some point but of course haven't yet. I need to remember to give it another try soon. Does anyone have any idea what cart type/banking scheme I should try with it? I *think* that I tried it as a Megacart type but wasn't successful. Although, like I said, I really put very little time into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Thanks for trying previously.. They just look like nice all in collections, with Datasoft and Synapse being terrific titles, mostly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 I have a couple of SunMark items. They had good quality products, IMO. That SunMark multi-cart has titles that bring back fond memories. But it wasn't reprogramable, was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Mclaneinc said: Did anyone ever dump these? I dumped Synapse Games and Datasoft Games https://mega.nz/file/7qIEETbZ#mOSN5hnX8t2i9FC6uQ-7CMEgkVYyd3DgKNcOB5rZWXo https://mega.nz/file/emBiyLbB#sZ12iy5tS2k4SUVP16fjV6GbyHbgdBNH8dzKkogvGJQ 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 38 minutes ago, tjlazer said: I dumped Synapse Games and Datasoft Games If I may ask, what did you use to dump them? What cart type/banking scheme too? I am definitely going to download yours but would still like to see if I can dump my own as well. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, SS said: If I may ask, what did you use to dump them? What cart type/banking scheme too? I am definitely going to download yours but would still like to see if I can dump my own as well. Thanks. They seem to be MegaCart 512 KB images. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 53 minutes ago, tjlazer said: I dumped Synapse Games and Datasoft Games https://mega.nz/file/7qIEETbZ#mOSN5hnX8t2i9FC6uQ-7CMEgkVYyd3DgKNcOB5rZWXo https://mega.nz/file/emBiyLbB#sZ12iy5tS2k4SUVP16fjV6GbyHbgdBNH8dzKkogvGJQ Thank you so much...As said, lovely almost perfect collections.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, Mclaneinc said: lovely almost perfect collections correctly put, despite having the opportunity, the XL/both OS's patched versions were not used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, SS said: If I may ask, what did you use to dump them? What cart type/banking scheme too? I am definitely going to download yours but would still like to see if I can dump my own as well. Thanks. 1 hour ago, MrFish said: They seem to be MegaCart 512 KB images. I must have used the wrong setting on my initial attempt. I just tried it again as a 512K MegaCart and it dumped right away. My cartridge seems to be exactly the same as the one that tjlazer dumped. Synapse SunMark Megacart.car 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, SS said: My cartridge seems to be exactly the same as the one that tjlazer dumped. The same in terms of game content and menu order, but they're not a byte-by-byte match when using file compare on them; there are quite a few differences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, MrFish said: The same in terms of game content and menu order, but they're not a byte-by-byte match when using file compare on them; there are quite a few differences. Would the differences likely be with the cartridges themselves or could the method used for the dumping process cause these differences? My cartridge seems to be one of the initial run of 50 of the Synapse carts. I used an "AtariMax MaxFlash USB Programmer" cartridge to dump it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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