unhuman Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 How much memory does your wrapper use? things looking very tight for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, unhuman said: How much memory does your wrapper use? things looking very tight for me. I'm not done with it yet. I'll let you know within the next few days. I also just realized I did not emphasize an important fact: after returning from subroutine 10000, you MUST read MX and MY and use these values as your current mouse coordinates. In other words, your mouse's physical location might change (think portals). This should not have an impact on your algorithms but does make the maze design more interesting and scanning proof. Edited July 21, 2021 by Vorticon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unhuman Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) I'm curious about the portals... Do they function the same both ways? It will definitely affect my algorithm. I don't want to mention why, however... Edited July 21, 2021 by unhuman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, unhuman said: I'm curious about the portals... Do they function the same both ways? It will definitely affect my algorithm. I don't want to mention why, however... A portal has 2 interconnected gates, so entering one gate will transport you to the other and it's bi-directional. Also the portals will be invisible to your mouse. As far as it's concerned, it would be just another empty space... Edited July 21, 2021 by Vorticon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FarmerPotato Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Wow, portals. That’s a real curveball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unhuman Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Hoping to get some time this weekend. Else, I might be in trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 12 hours ago, FarmerPotato said: Wow, portals. That’s a real curveball. I don't know if they make a difference other than defeating maze scanning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FarmerPotato Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Vorticon said: I don't know if they make a difference other than defeating maze scanning. Portals make it easy for you to add many more loops to the maze! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unhuman Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) Over the weekend, I was able to convert my algorithm from recursive to a loop. It was pretty simple, actually. Accounting for the Portals (I don't think it's a no-op) will be my next fun bit. After that, I've got to convert to BASIC. Pretty concerned about the tight deadline, but fun being had. Edited July 26, 2021 by unhuman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unhuman Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Okay... Here's my summary. Portals are definitely not a no-op for how I'm learning the maze. Also, is it possible for a portal to be located right next to another portal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 hours ago, unhuman said: Okay... Here's my summary. Portals are definitely not a no-op for how I'm learning the maze. Also, is it possible for a portal to be located right next to another portal? No that will not be the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unhuman Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) I have not yet finished my algorithm, let alone converted it to BASIC. Edit: Playing with Portals right now. Wholesale refactor. Edit 2: Maybe I'm overthinking how Portals work... Is there just one opening by a portal or could there be multiple entries to a portal? If there's only 1 path, I could probably take (almost) all of my special handling out, like you inferred earlier. I figured it could be like a black hole, where there could be (up to) 4 different paths into and out of it... Edited August 2, 2021 by unhuman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 Well that was a resounding success! Not a single entry submitted! ? Alright, moving on... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lee Stewart Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Vorticon said: Well that was a resounding success! Not a single entry submitted! ? Alright, moving on... Sorry about that. I had every intention of participating, but our bathroom remodel sits squarely in the way! ...lee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TheBF Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I couldn't figure out how my mouse was going to carry the TI-99 and the PEB while running around the maze. ? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unhuman Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I am truly disappointed this fell apart. I will finish my Java implementation and share what I had, but I don't think I'll target TI BASIC "for fun". Never got an answer for the portal entries / exits question, which was in the 11th hour anyway.... I struggled with how to manage that in a clean way if there were multiples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 11 hours ago, unhuman said: I am truly disappointed this fell apart. I will finish my Java implementation and share what I had, but I don't think I'll target TI BASIC "for fun". Never got an answer for the portal entries / exits question, which was in the 11th hour anyway.... I struggled with how to manage that in a clean way if there were multiples. I thought I did answer your questions. Apologies if that was not clear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) In case anyone is curious, below is the map of the maze for the competition. The + and @ are the portals. The + portal takes you to its + counterpart, same for the @ one. Edited August 6, 2021 by Vorticon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speccery Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Interesting idea for the competition, having a sample map of a maze (same rules but different maze obviously) would probably have answered many of the questions and helped to get participation up. I was thinking to participate as a fun project, but forgot when the submissions were due... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FarmerPotato Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 I also lost track of the deadline. I haven’t had any free time since I finished my Phase 1 algorithm. I really like having programming contests here in the TI forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 57 minutes ago, speccery said: Interesting idea for the competition, having a sample map of a maze (same rules but different maze obviously) would probably have answered many of the questions and helped to get participation up. I was thinking to participate as a fun project, but forgot when the submissions were due... In retrospect that would indeed have been helpful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddemann Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Set a new deadline, summer is over and maybe more people will have time now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 42 minutes ago, oddemann said: Set a new deadline, summer is over and maybe more people will have time now? Not so sure. This is a very specific type of challenge and not a game to boot, so it will appeal to only a handful here. It's also a rather difficult problem. Instead of setting a new deadline, I'll let those willing to play with it submit an entry at their leisure, and if I have enough entries (at least a couple) by early Fall, I'll pit them against each other and see who comes out on top. I am back on service next week then I will be out of country for the following 3 weeks, so we'll see by then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 1:51 PM, Vorticon said: Well that was a resounding success! Not a single entry submitted! ? Alright, moving on... Sorry, but my algorithm would not work with portals. I had no good idea to replace it and continued with my other projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unhuman Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Wow. Took me a bit to find the second + (top right). The multiple entries to the portals would've blown away my planned algorithm. I also made an incorrect assumption as to where "If you know where the exterior wall is"... That was a bit misleading. I was really thinking along the non-traditional way. I'll probably just go back to my recursive Java version and complete that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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