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What is the hardest NES game you beat without resorting to cheats or a walkthrough?

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On 9/21/2021 at 9:41 PM, thegoldenband said:

Anyway, I'd say maybe Double Dragon III? I beat that back in the day without assistance of any kind. Some people seem to think it's hard, though I think it's fairly easy until the end.

Double Dragon III has one of the hardest final bosses for me. I just cannot do it consistently (which is why I've yet to revisit it as a video walkthrough, ha). The final stage itself also has a few BS moments as well, and getting yourself setup to not get infinitely juggled in a corner (or knocked into a spike pit) is inconsistent due to sluggish movement.

On 9/21/2021 at 3:02 PM, JumbleJag said:

That game is brutally difficult, I couldn't complete it as a kid and there's no chance I can do it in my forties.

I have heard a lot of people say this, but I bet you'd be surprised. I have found I am much better as an adult than I ever was as a kid. As adults we have the benefit of [hopefully] having restraint, thinking about what we are doing and actually learning from our mistakes. Not to mention the decades of other gaming experiences since we were kids that will have an effect on how we approach situations in games. And with something like Battletoads, it does come down to mostly memorization and timing (there are only a tiny handful of actually-random encounters that require on-the-fly thinking). It's just a matter if one wants to actually put the time in to learn it. I'm not saying it will be easy (or even fun), but I do think you and others probably deserve more credit than you give yourselves.

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Technically a fail.  I got to the last boss monster in Athena and could withstand hours of battle. 

 

Turns out there were hidden items in various levels that you must pick up or else the final boss was straight up [email protected]

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I didn't beat Battletoads and other tough games until in my late 30s and 40s. I'm much better at games now than I was as a kid.

 

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1 hour ago, mbd39 said:

 I'm much better at games now than I was as a kid.

 

Some here.  The only real advantage I had as a kid was much more free time to play, which helped with the memorization needed for a lot of those games

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4 hours ago, Austin said:

Double Dragon III has one of the hardest final bosses for me. I just cannot do it consistently (which is why I've yet to revisit it as a video walkthrough, ha). The final stage itself also has a few BS moments as well, and getting yourself setup to not get infinitely juggled in a corner (or knocked into a spike pit) is inconsistent due to sluggish movement.

I think something happens in the last stage that makes the game start eating inputs, as over and over again I've found that I'm not pulling off spin kicks, get a GAME OVER, and then have no trouble pulling them off as soon as I restart. I had thought that it was just nerves or overeager button-mashing, but I suspect it's an actual game engine problem.

 

BTW I'm better than ever at games too. I can thrash games now that completely stymied me as a teenager. The trick, at least for me, is using a CRT, or some sort of zero-lag setup; anything involving any degree of lag makes me feel like I've completely lost my skills.

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Reason a lot of times these days people have a harder time beating Battletoads, or Mike Tyson for that matter is they're playing it on an emulator. Obviously with the various types of lag that can happen, it makes it harder to navigate the speeder bike levels or Mike Tyson's initial punches, etc.

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On 8/10/2021 at 8:32 PM, 4300 said:

I beat Ninja Gaiden last year.  Only took me 30 years.  And I honestly never want to play it again. 

Excellent..... now you can spend the next 30 years on part 2....and your prize?

 

Part 3.

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I beat the first Castlevania, after repeatedly struggling against Dracula.

 

I also beat Mega Man 1.  Yes, the game with the disappearing blocks and those tricky platforms on Gutsman's stage.

 

It was NOT easy.

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Ninja Gaiden 1 & 2

 

I got to the final Palace in Zelda II a few years ago and got stuck... Still never tried beating it since I should do that.

 

Contra

 

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As a young kid when the system was new, Mike Tyson's Punch-Out and Karnov were the hardest ones that I beat. I beat all the Castlevanias and Mega Mans. I Never did beat Zelda 2, only until later. On emulators and with save states.

When I was a kid and asked for a new game on NES (or even rent one), my parents would ask If I had beaten all the ones I owned yet. That really motivated me to master whatever games I had that sucked or were hard. It wasn't so much a rule or goal that they set, but just something they would say when I wanted a new game and they didn't want to buy a new game. Basically it backfired on them.
 

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Final Fantasy II in japanese. Eventually I beat long ago. But everything I thought was obvious wasn't and aI ran around blind for hours.

 

I played English version much later I think on Playstation? Level Systems still don't make sense and game has moments where you have to go is not clear.

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It is honestly hard to remember which games you beat with no help and which games you used help. I am pretty sure I beat all three Super Mario Bros. games without help, but everybody played those back then so it is possible I got some help from a friend.

 

My sister and I played through Dragon Warrior together the first time, so that does not count. I do remember we could not find the Stones of Sunlight after looking for hours. I happened to sit by someone on the bus who overheard me telling a friend about my troubles and he told me where they were.

 

I am pretty sure I beat Mega Man and Metal Gear without any help back in the day, but not 100% sure. I do remember using passwords from a password book for Metal Gear, but not any gameplay hints.

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Here are some of the more difficult NES games I've beaten prior to reaching my 25 years old at the top of my head:

- Summer Carnival '92: Recca

- Battletoads (multiple times)

- Ghosts 'n' Goblins (both loops)

- Gradius (without the Konami code)

- Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

- Micro Machines (later races get pretty brutal)

- Contra and Super C (finished the first game without the Konami code and without dying even once in one instance. Don't know in which mental state I was when I did that)

- Ninja Gaiden trilogy (managed to beat the first game without using continues once)

- Castlevania I and III (I've yet to beat Castlevania II from start to finish)

- Batman and Batman: Return of the Joker

- Silver Surfer

- Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!

- The Adventures of Bayou Billy

- Kung-Fu

- Startropics

- Street Fighter 2010: The Final Fight

- Ironsword: Wizards & Warriors II

- Mega Man 1

- Air Fortress (I've yet to finish the second loop)

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25 minutes ago, KidGameR186496 said:

- Air Fortress (I've yet to finish the second loop)

Air Fortress! That's one I did 100% on my own as far as I recall. Did both loops too. Love that game.

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Contra, Rygar, Ninja Gaiden I and II, Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out, Bionic Commando, and Dragon Warrior III come to mind as being tough. I’ve never beat Mega Man without the Elec Man pause trick so that probably doesn’t count

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