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HSC18 Round 13: PHOENIX LAIR & SPACE MINES

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Phoenix Lair - 3620 pts (level 3, got mesmerized by all the eggs)

Space Mines! - 22000 pts (also developed a strategy in this one)

 

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Intermediate standings before trbb compiles official ones:

 

Phoenix Lair
Dope         9340
Deteacher    4500
carlsson     3620
AtariSphinx  3260
RedThunder   1530
roadrunner   1390

Space Mines!
The V-Man   38000
RedThunder  22700
carlsson    22000
Deteacher   14000
roadrunner   4800
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Space Mines! - 25300 pts level 13

 

I'll admit that this game is starting to grow on me! At first I thought it didn't seem that fun, but once you get to levels 9-10 and up, it is getting so fast and with so many flies attacking that it is a challenge to place mines and put yourself in safety. Sure it is not an exploration game where you have to develop new tactics all the time or you get to see new level designs, but for all intents and purposes it is quite playable once you have come past the first levels.

 

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Phoenix lair 50

Space mines 0

 

Atari time is limited these days so not going to put effort in to these

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On 8/4/2021 at 11:15 AM, Dope said:

Phoenix Lair: 9340

 

That was one of the worst experience with Atari games I ever had.

 

Hi Dope :thumbsup: glad you enjoyed it :grin: hope you are ok :cool:

 

On 8/4/2021 at 3:52 AM, The V-Man said:

I have a slight advantage on Space Mines!, since I wrote/played almost 40 years ago.  Forgot much of how to play it well, but was able to score a good one 38000, none the less.  My 14 year old self appreciates you all playing it.  When I have time, I may need to go back into that code and see if I can enhance the game play.

 

I will need load up Phoenix Lair and give it a try.

 

 

Welcome The V-Man, always nice to hear from the author's of the games :thumbsup: Just catching up with HSC admin, will play both games after this post!

 

first tables

scoring tba

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UPDATED SEASON 18: Current Standings with points from last two rounds! please check your scores!

 

Round 14 POLL >>>OPEN<<<

 

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Space Mines!: 30400
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I don't think that I will be able to beat that score as the game speed is insane at that point. :)

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Don't know what happened there as I missed a load of posts, aage went a bit funny as my poll post lost all the links and text after I'd posted it, might be my end!

 

Space Mines 16,800 level 10. Very nice game Vincent :thumbsup:

 

Can't get Phoenix Lair to load - ATR has unknown sectors so disk copy doesn't work ? APE load didn't work also. Loaded in altirra ok. Anyone got a version that works on real hardware?

[edit] had a quick play on altirra using keyboard 1,490 looks another nice game. Atarimania ATR version loads ok by APE will try and diskcopy that one and report back later this week.

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latest tables

scoring tba

Phoenix Lair

   1st   Dope                          9,340
  2nd   Deteacher                    4,500    
  3rd   carlsson                       3,620    
  4th   AtariSphinx                   3,200    
  5th   RedThunder                  1,530    
  6th   therealbountybob          1,490

  7th   McKong                        1,460    
  8th   roadrunner                    1,390    
  9th   mimo                               50    

 

Space Mines

  1st   The V-Man               38,000  
  2nd   Dope                         30,400   
  3rd   Deteacher                  25,300   
  4th   carlsson                     25,300   
  5th   RedThunder                22,700   
  6th   therealbountybob       16,800   
  7th   McKong                      16,400   
  8th   roadrunner                   4,800   
  9th   mimo                             100   

 

UPDATED SEASON 18: Current Standings with points from last two rounds! please check your scores!

 

Round 14 POLL >>>OPEN<<<

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1 hour ago, therealbountybob said:

Can't get Phoenix Lair to load - ATR has unknown sectors so disk copy doesn't work ?

The version you linked to at Fandal works with my SIO2SD though once it bailed out with garbage at level 3, to the point that I though it was corrupted but it behaved on second reload. Given all the small bugs, perhaps it is worth scouting for alternative versions in case there is one that is a little more coherent, or if those bugs are original.

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Phoenix Lair - 4560 pts

 

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I realized that you don't need to pick up every egg on level 3, just the required 6 eggs and then return to your nest which means it is a trade-off how much timer bonus vs egg value there is to pick up, and how much you risk losing a life.

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So after playing Phoenix Lair even more, I've come to some conclusions:

  • You clear the level after picking up at least 6 eggs and then moving back to your nest and exit to the right.
  • If you pick up all egs on the level, you get 1000 pts bonus.
  • The key that appears seems to generate some 400-500 pts bonus as well?
  • Speed 0 (default) is the fastest. Speed 10 is the slowest.

I suppose everyone have been playing on default speed 0, but the game gets a little bit easier if you play it on a slower speed. I won't post my best score since it was achieved with different settings, but slower speed makes level 2 a piece of cake and level 4 almost possible to solve.

 

Regarding bugs, once the bonus game ended for me after only three riders, but c'est la vie...

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On 8/12/2021 at 10:49 PM, carlsson said:

So after playing Phoenix Lair even more, I've come to some conclusions:

  • You clear the level after picking up at least 6 eggs and then moving back to your nest and exit to the right.
  • If you pick up all egs on the level, you get 1000 pts bonus.
  • The key that appears seems to generate some 400-500 pts bonus as well?
  • Speed 0 (default) is the fastest. Speed 10 is the slowest.

I suppose everyone have been playing on default speed 0, but the game gets a little bit easier if you play it on a slower speed. I won't post my best score since it was achieved with different settings, but slower speed makes level 2 a piece of cake and level 4 almost possible to solve.

 

Regarding bugs, once the bonus game ended for me after only three riders, but c'est la vie...

good info :thumbsup:

I've played Phoenix Lair ATR versions usng APE, managed to get all eggs (and the key) and pluck 5 riders a few times. Best score 4.300 (on defailt setting) game is very twitchy on PAL so maybe players should explore the speed settings and report back for next time when we play Joust we can have this as the bonus game :idea: After a couple of rounds I had the green screen with only 1 egg and not much else showing - is this a bug or some sort of night mode?

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Still time to Vote: Round 14 >>>POLL<<<

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1 egg sounds like another bug indeed. Sometimes the phoenix gets stuck on an egg at the border and accumulates points until the graphics get corrupted and the game crashes with a screen of garbage.

 

Then again sometimes the steering in Space Mines also locks up so I have to reboot to keep playing.

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Phoenix Lair: 4,120

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Space Mines: 22,300

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Both decent enough games, in my opinion. Never played either until now.

I think the key to killing the riders in the bonus round stage of Phoenix Lair is to be sure to only touch the pink "rider" part of the sprite, not the brown "steed" part. It's tricky though, because you can knock off the rider while the steed is still dangerous for a few frames, so if you don't fly upward right away, you'll still die.

 

Space Mines is my favorite of the two: I like twitch style games like this.

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