Jetboot Jack Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Hi, When I use Atari800MacX 6.0.0 on my Intel based iMac (Mac OS 11.5.2) and in full screen I get a massive red border to the left of the screen. Don't see this in windowed mode and have done a re-install after deleting all the emulator files and it's still there ? Anyone else see this or have a workaround? sTeVE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bhall408 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 18 hours ago, Jetboot Jack said: Anyone else see this or have a workaround? On my Intel Mac running 10.14.x, I don't see the problem. So possibly it is related to changes in Mac OS since then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwinmac Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 21 hours ago, Jetboot Jack said: Hi, When I use Atari800MacX 6.0.0 on my Intel based iMac (Mac OS 11.5.2) and in full screen I get a massive red border to the left of the screen. Don't see this in windowed mode and have done a re-install after deleting all the emulator files and it's still there ? Anyone else see this or have a workaround? sTeVE I don’t see a massive red border when running 6.0.0 on my M1 MacBook Air. I do see, depending on the game, some small flashing blocks outside the normal viewing screen. It appears to be showing areas that wouldn’t normally appear on a CRT. Bob C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) Yeah I thought it was an over-scanning issue, but it's there whatever display mode I select, but only fullscreen. Usually over-scanning will show garbage in an emulator, and be affected by the software running, this is 100% stable and persistent - no software or settings make it change... If you screenshot from the emulator it does not appear in the capture, but if you use the OS screenshot tool it's visible... sTeVE Edited September 26, 2021 by Jetboot Jack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwinmac Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, Jetboot Jack said: If you screenshot from the emulator it does not appear in the capture, but if you use the OS screenshot tool it's visible... sTeVE I don’t see anything like that. Bob C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 I am slightly stumped how to get rid of the issue, as I am the only one seeing it I am at a loss where to start ? sTeVE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+kheller2 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 What are your settings? I just started running bigsir 11.6 so I can try to test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinadan67 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) It is the same on my iMac (MacOS Big Sur 11.5.2) Edited September 27, 2021 by Dinadan67 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) On 9/27/2021 at 2:03 PM, kheller2 said: What are your settings? I just started running bigsir 11.6 so I can try to test. None special - 6.0.0 fresh install, using real OS images (any, issue occurs on all), PAL video, any game and select full screen… Gonna try on other macs will also get latest OS update and check! sTeVE Edited September 28, 2021 by Jetboot Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwinmac Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, Jetboot Jack said: None special - 6.0.0 fresh install, using real OS images (any, issue occurs on all), PAL video, any game and select full screen… Gonna try on other macs will also get latest OS update and check! sTeVE What version of PoP are you running? There are several versions in the PoP thread. I'm curious if I can recreate the problem you're having. I ran the 06/19/2021 Atarimax cartridge version. Bob C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 It’s not POP that is the issue, I have not played that, it’s any game - in the screenshot I shared it’s the recent version of Scramble…. sTeVE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwinmac Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Jetboot Jack said: It’s not POP that is the issue, I have not played that, it’s any game - in the screenshot I shared it’s the recent version of Scramble…. sTeVE In that case, it might be the difference between the Intel and Apple Silicon (M1) versions of Big Sur. I haven’t seen anything like the red border when running various games in full screen mode. I only see the small flickering blocks that appear to be data that won’t appear on a CRT. I’m running MacOS 11.6 on an M1. Bob C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 12:23 AM, darwinmac said: In that case, it might be the difference between the Intel and Apple Silicon (M1) versions of Big Sur. I haven’t seen anything like the red border when running various games in full screen mode. I only see the small flickering blocks that appear to be data that won’t appear on a CRT. I’m running MacOS 11.6 on an M1. Bob C Doubtful that Rosetta emulation would improve the compatibility - that would be very counter intuitive since the intel silicon path is the pure one vs the M1 execution requiring Rosetta... I have installed the emulator on a late model intel Mac mini (I7 with 32GB RAM and an external AMD Vega 64 GPU) and so far I am not seeing the red in full screen! So is this an iMac or GPU specific issue (the system I use for emulation is a 2014 27" system with 32GB RAM, 4.4ghz I7 with an R9 GPU)? sTeVE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinadan67 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, Jetboot Jack said: So is this an iMac or GPU specific issue (the system I use for emulation is a 2014 27" system with 32GB RAM, 4.4ghz I7 with an R9 GPU)? sTeVE I have a very similar system, the late 2015 27" iMac with 32GB Ram, 4GHz i7 + AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4 GB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 ooh - and we both see red!!!!! So maybe it's the Mac? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinadan67 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) The effect is triggered by the option "Keep Aspect Ratio in Fullscreen". If i disable this, the image is stretched but no red bar on the left side. Maybe darwinmac can check this option in the preferences? Edited October 1, 2021 by Dinadan67 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwinmac Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Dinadan67 said: The effect is triggered by the option "Keep Aspect Ratio in Fullscreen". If i disable this, the image is stretched but no red bar on the left side. Maybe darwinmac can check this option in the preferences? I can check this when I am back at home this weekend. However, I doubt I would have unchecked that item. I can’t stand a stretched screen. @Jetboot Jack - @atarimac compiled 6.0.0 as a Universal binary. Therefore, Rosetta is not used. However, it could be something specific to your graphics card since the two of you seeing this problem have the same card. Bob C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwinmac Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/1/2021 at 2:17 AM, Dinadan67 said: The effect is triggered by the option "Keep Aspect Ratio in Fullscreen". If i disable this, the image is stretched but no red bar on the left side. Maybe darwinmac can check this option in the preferences? I tried Atari800MacX when I returned home. As I thought, I always leave "Keep Aspect Ratio in Fullscreen" checked. I tried fullscreen in both NTSC (preferred for me being in the US) and PAL. I did not see the red bar either time. If I uncheck "Keep Aspect Ratio in Fullscreen", the image is stretched and I do not see the flickering boxes that I assume do not appear on a traditional CRT. Bob C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinadan67 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Thanks, perhaps the problem has something to do with the Radeon GFX card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 I have now tried on two other systems - the Mac Mini detailed above, and an i5 MacBook Air (16GB and intel UHD 617 GPU) - both have NO red bits ? Just my big old iMac sadly, so perhaps time for an upgrade - come on apple announce some M2 powered systems!!!! sTeVE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarimac Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 All, This has been fixed today in version 6.0.1 of Atari800MacX. I was not able to duplicate it with any of the Macs that I had previously, but when I got my new M1 Macbook Pro the issue showed up for me as well, and luckily the fix was only one line of code. The new release is available at github: https://github.com/atarimacosx/Atari800MacX/releases/tag/Release_6.0.1 or atarimac.com: http://atarimac.com/downloads.php Mark 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinadan67 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 That fixed it for my iMac, thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesk8 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Will you be supporting VBXE graphics modes in the future? Would be so nice to play new Gacek :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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