glurk #1 Posted March 6 Ok, the long-awaited game that no one asked for, and yet you get it anyways. Activision's "Freeway" ported from the 2600. Not a favorite game of mine, but I thought it would be an easy port, and kind of fun. And it was, mostly. Same story as my other ports, as close to the original as possible but with improved graphics like Activision might have done if they had made an 8-bit version. 8K Cart image, should play just like the 2600 version. SELECT chooses level, OPTION sets difficulty for each player, and START to, well, you know. I think it looks pretty good, I'm trying to get better at these as I go along. NTSC only for now, this is for testing, but so far I can't find any problems. PAL color version and (only maybe) 5200 version later. I need some rest, LOL! Freeway [NTSC].car 20 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adam242 #2 Posted March 6 Nice one, glurk! Love to have these old 2600 titles on our 8-bits. Thank you for your efforts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Philsan #3 Posted March 6 Thanks! When I load the game there's garbage instead of second chicken. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glurk #4 Posted March 6 2 hours ago, Philsan said: Thanks! When I load the game there's garbage instead of second chicken. That's a bug, for sure. I totally missed that, but it was an easy fix. Try this new one: Freeway [NTSC].car 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CharlieChaplin #5 Posted March 6 9 hours ago, glurk said: I need some rest, LOL! Take some rest with Chicken by Stan Ockers. It was inspired by Freeway for sure... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuf #6 Posted March 6 Freeway is one of the best 2 player VCS games ever. Ridiculously competitive. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glurk #7 Posted March 6 3 hours ago, tuf said: Freeway is one of the best 2 player VCS games ever. Ridiculously competitive. It's DEFINITELY intended to be a two player game. I thought about trying to add a computer opponent, but it would actually be somewhat complicated to do, because it's running the original 2600 code, and I don't fully understand all the nuances of it. Pretty soon - if no other problems are reported - I'll do a PAL color version. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glurk #8 Posted March 7 (edited) I went ahead and made the color-matching PAL and NTSC versions. They're pretty close. These 2 differ only in the color values used. Freeway [NTSC].car Freeway [PAL].car I suppose I'll give it a shot on a 5200 version next. No guarantees on that, sometimes it gets a bit problematic. Maybe I can... EDIT: That was really easy. No problems at all, it should work OK: Freeway [5200].car Freeway [5200].bin Edited March 7 by glurk Added 5200 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuf #9 Posted March 7 19 hours ago, glurk said: It's DEFINITELY intended to be a two player game. I thought about trying to add a computer opponent, but it would actually be somewhat complicated to do, because it's running the original 2600 code, and I don't fully understand all the nuances of it. If you spend any time modifying code, how about making it support 4 players Give us 4-player Warlords guys something else to play! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuf #10 Posted March 7 (edited) 8 minutes ago, tuf said: If you spend any time modifying code, how about making it support 4 players Give us 4-player Warlords guys something else to play! And after rabbit hole-ing a bit I see someone's already done just that - Mashed Turtles: Edited March 7 by tuf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dukdukgoos #12 Posted March 9 I'd love to see the source for this! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glurk #13 Posted March 9 3 hours ago, dukdukgoos said: I'd love to see the source for this! You don't really want to see MY source code, trust me. But I worked from an old 1997 disassembly of the 2600 original, available on this page: http://www.bjars.com/disassemblies.html It has everything nicely commented, written for an unknown (to me) assembler, and I also used Stella emulator's automatic "smart disassembly" which generates ready-to-use DASM source for 4K and 2K games like magic :) The stuff I wrote is the "glue layer" that converts the 2600 kernel into something 8-bit compatible, and it's not pretty, and it's different for every game. And I don't always comment my own code very much, since I usually know what it does, LOL! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dukdukgoos #14 Posted March 10 On 3/9/2022 at 6:49 PM, glurk said: You don't really want to see MY source code, trust me. But I worked from an old 1997 disassembly of the 2600 original, available on this page: http://www.bjars.com/disassemblies.html It has everything nicely commented, written for an unknown (to me) assembler, and I also used Stella emulator's automatic "smart disassembly" which generates ready-to-use DASM source for 4K and 2K games like magic The stuff I wrote is the "glue layer" that converts the 2600 kernel into something 8-bit compatible, and it's not pretty, and it's different for every game. And I don't always comment my own code very much, since I usually know what it does, LOL! That's exactly the stuff I'm interested in though... the conversion of a 2600 kernel to 8-bit. I assume the 8-bit version is still a kernel, "racing the beam" style? Alternately if you know of any examples of other 2600 kernel to 8-bit conversions that helped you learn how to do it I'd be interested in seeing those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen #15 Posted March 10 24 minutes ago, dukdukgoos said: That's exactly the stuff I'm interested in though... the conversion of a 2600 kernel to 8-bit. I assume the 8-bit version is still a kernel, "racing the beam" style? Alternately if you know of any examples of other 2600 kernel to 8-bit conversions that helped you learn how to do it I'd be interested in seeing those. Phaeron did several. Been a while - I think they were Combat, Video Pinball, Stampede, most recently Cosmic Ark, and maybe one other. Sorry that's not much help - I should try to look them up. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glurk #16 Posted March 10 Phaeron also did 2600's Adventure, and Raiders o.t.L.A. and Seaquest. And released source code to all of them. They are all on the boards, scattered in various threads. He really does use a kernel approach, and I tend to use series of DLIs. But 'Fishing Derby' and 'Freeway' do use kernels, which are still implemented as large DLI's. And it's not really 'racing the beam' exactly, because a lot of it is WSYNC's.... Like, here's the 'Freeway' kernel, it's part of a DLI: ldx #10-1 .carcol2 ldy #8-1 ; BLACK + 7 also!! sty COLBK lda zCarScrolls,x sta HSCROL sta WSYNC lda #$34 sta PRIOR sta WSYNC lda chickP0Collide beq .noP0hitted stx chick0LaneCollide .noP0hitted lda chickP1Collide beq .noP1hitted stx chick1LaneCollide .noP1hitted sta WSYNC lda StripeColors,x sta COLPF1 sta WSYNC lda CarColors,x sta COLPF2 .carcol1 sta WSYNC lda CarBrights,y adc CarWindows,x sta COLPF0 dey bne .carcol1 sta WSYNC sty COLPF2 lda LineColors,x sta COLPF0 lda #$31 sta PRIOR sta WSYNC lda P0PF ora P1PF and #4 sta chickP0Collide lda P2PF ora P3PF and #4 sta chickP1Collide sta WSYNC sta WSYNC sta WSYNC dex bpl .carcol2 That chunk of code covers most of the screen, all 10 lines of cars, doing all the color changes and collision detection. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CommodoreDecker #17 Posted March 10 Would you consider looking at the old prototype of Freeway, where they used the other old joke of using a human figure, complete with red spot once it gets hit? The nostalgic kid of my past loved this game, playing with mom, but the Gen_X adult in me found more out of the prototype... which was a real thing, apparently... http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/freeway/bloodyhuman.htm 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glurk #18 Posted March 10 I actually DID have a splattered chicken in there, which came about by accident when I indexed past my sprite animations and got random bytes. It looked pretty funny. But I chose to leave that out and be true to the original. 😁 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+sramirez2008 #19 Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, glurk said: I actually DID have a splattered chicken in there Ha! Please provide a version with the splattered chicken.😃 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CommodoreDecker #20 Posted March 10 On 3/6/2022 at 2:38 AM, Philsan said: Thanks! When I load the game there's garbage instead of second chicken. My first thought was that they're a group of teriyaki sticks. :9 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gibstov #21 Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Stephen said: Phaeron did several. Been a while - I think they were Combat, Video Pinball, Stampede, most recently Cosmic Ark, and maybe one other. Sorry that's not much help - I should try to look them up. I think Raiders of the Lost Ark was converted too, not sure who did it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CommodoreDecker #22 Posted March 10 (edited) 8 minutes ago, sramirez2008 said: Ha! Please provide a version with the splattered chicken.😃 I'm going to second that request. If Frogger showed a splattered frog back in 1982, then a flattened chicken should be just as okay? The game tries to be realistic in other ways, anyway... Edited March 10 by CommodoreDecker 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glurk #23 Posted March 10 The 'garbage' one is not the one. Look here: But I'm just not going to make another version of this, just to add spatter. Sorry! 🤪 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites