Bee Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I found a TT in Germany. Any words of advice on TT ownership. I have been looking for 2 years. I've been thinking of running Mint. All and any advice is appreciated. Or should I let the Unicorn go? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkdluG Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Depends on the price of course. Or rather, what you are willing to pay for it. Make sure it is working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Great machines. Love mine. Personally, my only issue with getting a German one is the keyboard (but you can use a regular Mega one, so no biggie there). With the "Natural Disaster Pack" (Thunder/Storm/Lightning and now SpeedyTT) they can be real beasts. Personally, if you're just looking to play games, might not be worth it to you... but if you're looking for a productivity machine (or for BBSing, programming, etc) can't beat it. Get yourself a CF/SD drive (either IDE with the NDP or internal SCSI) and then you can have it all.... TOS, MiNT, Minix, System V, Magic... Just swap out the card. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikro Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Also, be prepared for rather disappointing VGA output (without further help -- a graphics card, RGBtoHDMI, OSSC, ...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdivancic Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 TT is a great machine, but is not the best game machine. I would say, why Mint unless you have a specific reason to run it. I just boot into TOS. If your running applications it’s great, specifically CAD and older Desktop publishing applications. There is also a version of GAF Basic that runs on the TT. There are some nice upgrades, but I’ve always run mine with 4M of ST ram and 16M of TT ram and have never felt a need for more. I have a CaTTamaram accelerator in mine, which I love (SpeedyTT should be a better version). Unlike mikro I like the VGA output, but it works fine with my VGA monitor. If you can still get the adaptor for TT high resolution, get it. It’s awesome and I use mine 80% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 hours ago, mikro said: Also, be prepared for rather disappointing VGA output (without further help -- a graphics card, RGBtoHDMI, OSSC, ...) Can't say I've ever needed any of that with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, mdivancic said: TT is a great machine, but is not the best game machine. I would say, why Mint unless you have a specific reason to run it. I just boot into TOS. If your running applications it’s great, specifically CAD and older Desktop publishing applications. There is also a version of GAF Basic that runs on the TT. There are some nice upgrades, but I’ve always run mine with 4M of ST ram and 16M of TT ram and have never felt a need for more. I have a CaTTamaram accelerator in mine, which I love (SpeedyTT should be a better version). Unlike mikro I like the VGA output, but it works fine with my VGA monitor. If you can still get the adaptor for TT high resolution, get it. It’s awesome and I use mine 80% of the time. Actually, the best version of the GFA dev environment requires MiNT. You don't really need to do that to just run the GFA interpreter, but it's a much better experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) It's the only thing in the Atari Line I haven't used, that I have interest in. It is the box alone , no keyboard or mouse, but I have a spare keyboard and keyboard adapter. Mint because it seems the logical extension, but yes I can multiboot. I have been looking at the RASCSI. This one shows a screen of ST ram and TT ram 4MB. I don't understand the difference? I mainly run Calamus. But love to play in basic so GFA might be the ticket here. I don't really game. I appreciate everyone's input. Thank you Edited March 23, 2022 by Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Not all applications can run in TT Ram... some things, like HDDriver can be loaded into TT ram so they don't use up ST ram. With things like the NDP, you can get USB ports, IDE interfaces and .... up to 256mb of "TT Ram". If you decide to pass on it, let me know... Wouldn't mind having a second. My TT is maxed out, but I'd love to have another one to put in a non-TT case and really deck out. But yeah, especially if gaming isn't your main thing, you're missing out without a TT.... Er.. I mean... TT's suck, let me know the contact info on the seller so I can ....er... chastise him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdivancic Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 The fact that it has TT ram means you can switch out the 4x1MB sims for 4x4MB sims to increase the TT memory. I would open it up first to see what’s inside before you buy anything. When I purchased mine 10 years ago the seller didn’t know it had a CaTTamaram installed, which was a nice bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Are you suggesting he book a flight to Germany? Would make for a nice trip though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdivancic Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 20 hours ago, Tillek said: Are you suggesting he book a flight to Germany? Would make for a nice trip though. No, sorry. That was supposed to say before you buy any upgrades check and see what’s inside. I was assuming he would do this once he had it at his location… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 14 hours ago, mdivancic said: No, sorry. That was supposed to say before you buy any upgrades check and see what’s inside. I was assuming he would do this once he had it at his location… Was just kinda messing with you. And then...... Funny story. So I've taken the TT case off before, but never really looked that close. So this weekend, finally getting around to installing the "Natural Disaster Pack".... And I look at where I'm going to install the Lightning VME..... And I find...... A card (I'll try to provide pictures tomorrow) of a thing called the Cyrell Trident. And Google has failed me. I knew I had a CaTTamaran. I knew I had a Cyrell Sunrise video card. Guy never said anything about a Cyrell Trident... or what the hell it does. Makes the weekend a bit more interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 This *never* happens to me. I've seen other people post about similar experiences and it always amazes me. In all the years I've been buying, trading, and working with Atari computers this has never happened to me even once... /sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, DarkLord said: This *never* happens to me. I've seen other people post about similar experiences and it always amazes me. In all the years I've been buying, trading, and working with Atari computers this has never happened to me even once... /sigh In this case, I wouldn't call it a good thing. The thing is useless in its present state so unless I solder jumper headers and a connector, I can't even compare it to "The German Offering". The installation means I can't install lightning (the 2 cables from the motherboard to the vme back plane were shortened so I'll have to replace them). My biggest fear is that it's necessary for the CaTTamaran, but it doesn't look like it is. I'm just confused why the original owner installed it, and didn't do anything with it. Or maybe I'm totally missing something. Of course it does create one interesting possibility. Some kind of much smaller combined lightning + ide board that would make more room for another gadget where the Thunder & Storm live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 So TT030, a fun swiss army knife of Atari computers. Neat ways to add memory, video cards. Such power. Get the right monitor or adapter, has a really cool monochrome resolution. Works with SOME of the ST games. A "workstation" describes the TT030 best. A place to work graphics, publishing, CADD drawings, applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 I wonder...do P.Pera's hard drive adapted games work on the TT? I know most of his adaptations work on my Pak 68/3 equipped STacy, which, while not a TT030, does have a 68030 as well as TOS v3.06. So I'm curious. Any current TT owners want to try his games and report back? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) FFW - I was in theory $60US short on my bid. Maybe next time but I learned alot about the TT. Thank you Edited March 28, 2022 by Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 That sucks. To only miss by $60... Well.. maybe next time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Well, it was at least $60, but could've been hundreds more, depending on how high the winner was willing to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGB1718 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, bfollowell said: Well, it was at least $60, but could've been hundreds more, depending on how high the winner was willing to go It is strange how much people will over bid, I was bidding for an 800XL some time ago, posted as not working, in a bit of a state, selling for spares only, probably only worth around £50, I stopped at £52, it eventually went for £110 + £15 postage, I eventually got a nice working one for £68+Postage (smiles all round ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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