DracIsBack Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Now that XEGS COMMANDO is on its way to release, 14 years after being canned, any news on when some of the 7800 protos are getting released? Anyone got and wanna manufacture: Missing In Action Electrocop Gauntlet Plutos Steel Talons Anyone ...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Anyone got and wanna manufacture: Missing In Action Electrocop Gauntlet Plutos Steel Talons Misisng in Action and Plutos (along with Sirius) are owned by the DP crew. I know they were going to released them, but I haven't seen either since PC3. AFAIK no one has found Electrocop, Gauntlet, or Steel Talons. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 What abou tany other releases? After looking at the 'In development' list I noticed that the 7800 has the least new games coming out for it. Is it due to difficulty in programming for it or the encryption, or just a lack of interest? I think that Adventure II would make a great game on the 7800 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy_Dude Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 What abou tany other releases? After looking at the 'In development' list I noticed that the 7800 has the least new games coming out for it. Is it due to difficulty in programming for it or the encryption, or just a lack of interest? I think that Adventure II would make a great game on the 7800 as well. encryption = simple, so no that isn't it. it's easier to program than the 2600, so no to that too. seems to me to be a lack of interest. It flares up occasionaly and I think it's been less than a month scince this question was last asked (reasons for no hbrews) or even less than 2 weeks. I predict a 7800 homebrew release before the end of this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBall Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 The encryption (digital signature really) issue has been resolved, so that is no longer a road block. The basic documentation exists, MESS does a decent job emulating (though you need to recompile it for debugging), and the CC2 is in beta test. About the only thing which does not exist is the homebrew community and various bits of sample code. Programming the 7800 isn't difficult, it's still 6502 assembly. No requirement for tricky cycle counting either. Building the display list list (not a typo) is mostly just data movement. I believe there is some interest in 7800 programming, and there will be interest in buying 7800 homebrews too. And yes, I am working on a game. Watch this forum for developments in the near future (depending on my time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 I'm interested in the 7800 too. Lack of example code is my road block. I generally learn better that way. There is some out there, like Eric's color demo (BTW thanks for sharing), but most are uncommented disassemblies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 I'm interested in the 7800 too. Lack of example code is my road block Ditto. However I will be attempting to write Mappy for the 7800 soon (once I get those webpage updates done). Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 If there's one game I'd like to see on the 7800, it'd be Sinistar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 If there's one game I'd like to see on the 7800, it'd be Sinistar! That was actually a planned title, but I don't know if it was ever started. It would be nice to find though. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Well it's good to know that the 7800 isn't 'abandoned' and that there are a few working on some games for it. I wouldn't mind seeing an update to Dark Chambers or like I said Adventure 2. Like I've said many times however if I knew how to program, I'd make a game for any Atari system, probably 5200, 7800, or Lynx. Of course I may be able to take a programming class soon at school which would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 I've had a few ideas, but I'm not familiar enough with assembly to do anything with the 7800. Been meaning to pick up one of those 6502 programming books, figure that'd be as good a place as any to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 I've had a few ideas, but I'm not familiar enough with assembly to do anything with the 7800. Been meaning to pick up one of those 6502 programming books, figure that'd be as good a place as any to start. I do have one book on 6502 programming, but I don't understand it too much. I'd thought that it was only for the Atari 800, but I see how it can go beyond that. Maybe I'll have to get it out again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsoper Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 For those of you who were at CGE last month, do you remember that unsold stack of 5200 Klax games at the end of the weekend? I wonder if any 5200 or 7800 homebrew would sell as much as a 2600 one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Well, I don't think the fanbase to the 5200 and 7800 is as large. Although, one could argue 5200 Klax wasn't the best port of the game available. I think just being able to prove that the 7800 has some real power under the hood when someone actually uses it, is reason enough to make a game for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 I've always wondered why there were homebrews on the 5200 but not the 7800. I've always seen the 5200 as an unpopular machine with nearly unusable joysticks and the 7800 as a well designed, powerful machine. But that's my own experience, knowing a couple of people back in the late '80s with unplayable 5200s (joysticks usually) and me just having fun with my 7800 and all the fun but odd games that trickled out for it. I've never actually played a 5200, even though I own one. (No power supply.) I've always favored the 7800, so I would much rather see homebrews that take advantage of it's power and abilities. Adventure II would be so great on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattG/Snyper2099 Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Dear God Tempest you HAVE to do Mappy for the 7800! One of my all time favorite games! I'll beta test it for you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy_Dude Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Well, I don't think the fanbase to the 5200 and 7800 is as large. Although, one could argue 5200 Klax wasn't the best port of the game available. I think just being able to prove that the 7800 has some real power under the hood when someone actually uses it, is reason enough to make a game for it Like I'v said before, The 5200 doesn't have an international fanbase like the 7800. Beleive me I'll be lining up for the first 7800 brew. But I doubt I'll ever own a 5200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Mappy? 7800? Interesting... PAL release too please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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