Burnout 2

[liveinabin]

Just got myself a copy of Burnout 2 for GC.

Faith in gaming completely restored.

Thankyou:)

[+Cafeman]

Hey Hey Hey! Get outta my way!

 

I just bought it for the Cube yesterday, too! I haven't played it yet, probably tonight I'll find time. Last night I had enough time to watch the Hulk DVD and that's it.

 

But I really loved Burnout and after hearing stuff about B2 I'm sure I'll get into it even more!

 

Why not expound a bit on why you think it's such a cool game? I'll add my thoughts in a day or so.

[liveinabin]

Oh my god, where to begin?

For a start, it's in widescreen. Always a good thing.

The control system is perfect! You know when you buy a new racer and the controls take a bit of getting used to? Well not with this, it's completely intuitive.

The graphics are jaw droppingly good. Not just from a technical standpoint, but an artistic one as well. Whoever put that scenery together knew a thing or two about lighting.

The difficulty curve is great too.

 

And the icing on the cake has to be pursuit mode. I've always loved Chase HQ but this completely replaces it.

I fact it completely substitutes all of my favourite racer games of the past - Chase HQ, Crazy Taxi and Ridge Racer 4.

I really can't praise it highly enough. If they'd sat me down and said "right, design your perfect arcade game" it would have been this. exactly.

[+Cafeman]

... makes me want to leave work early and play it!

 

Nobody'll miss me, right?

[liveinabin]

Well...ah, there you go, they're not looking, now's your chance to slip out!

[Osmeroid]

When you're discussing Burnout 2 there really is only two words that need to be said....

 

 

CRASH MODE

 

 

Probably the best idea ever applied to a car game IMO

[moycon]

CRASH MODE

 

Whats that exactly?

Camera backs up and shows the crash in replay??

 

[rasty]

CRASH MODE

 

Whats that exactly?

Camera backs up and shows the crash in replay??

It's a game mode that requires the player to do as much damage as possible!

 

Great game... !!

 

Regards,

Rasty.-

[+Cafeman]

I played my new copy of Burnout 2 for about 20 minutes last night.

 

You have to finish a 'driving 101' mode before you get to the real stuff. I didn't like that, but it's simple and quick to get past it.

 

I don't have Burnout anymore but I'd say that Burnout 2 looks noticeably better. I picked the first dog of a car and played the airport track and the next track which is a lot longer. It seemed a lot easier to fill up my Burn meter than in the original, but it might be because I already know how to do that. But I still crashed a few times. I love drifting!

 

Then I played 1 game of Crash mode which I can just tell is going to be a LOT of fun. Race down the hill into a busy intersection and try to cause the most damage! The crash plays in slow motion and the dollar signs keep adding up Ka-Ching$$$$ as the chain reaction of crashes occurs!

 

I didn't see the Pursuit mode -- is it an unlockable mode? I'm pretty sure I read that you can play as a cop chasing someone -- is that true?

[liveinabin]

yeah pursuit mode is unlockable so you can do it with any two cars (as well as 2 player, one the cop, one the bad guy - hit him 10 times to get him off the road! )

 

Moycon, crash mode is great. The idea is it sets you up on one of many road sections, be they busy freeway intersections, crossroads etc. and in one well placed collision you have to cause as much collateral damage as possible (the final score - in insurance damage!- is collated by a post-crash helicopter fly-by). The sounds of breaking glass, twisting metal and car alarms are great, as is the challenge of finding that 'sweet spot' on an oncoming car so it'll hurtle your wrecked motor halfway across the freeway into the path of oncoming buses (which I like to imagine are full of deprived schoolkids on their day out).

 

Oh my god, I just unlocked the Supercar. That REALLY makes a f**king mess slamming into a logging-trailer at 160mph+

[ultravi0let]

there are better cars to unlock than the SuperCar :-]

i love the game so much i swoped my completed PS2 copy for the mildly better X-Box version; just to do it all again

[liveinabin]

there are better cars to unlock than the SuperCar :-]  

 

Oh I don't doubt it. I'll see them in the next few days:)

I do like the Supercar though, it goes like thunder but still handles really well. A nice step up from the Roadster I've been using for the rest of the game.

Is it just me or is the police car terrible? I guess it handles rather like a real US police car (the 70's kind, all wobbly suspension and no stablility).

[+Cafeman]

I played for an hour or two last night! I played Championship mode up to the point you unlock the 2nd Pursuit Mode and another championship run. I'm using the Sport car I think and having no troubles getting the 1st place Trophies. Either my Burnout 1 skills are helping, or Burnout 2 isn't as difficult (yet?).

 

I like the Pursuit modes! These are challenging because the cop car handles like a tank on a boat on ice.

 

The last Championship I played was an Airport course in the rain at night! I don't remember Burnout 1 having visible rain or any weather -- it was extremely cool looking!

[liveinabin]

Yeah, it's not the hardest racing game I've played but it's just a load of fun anyway. I've never bought the idea that games have to be hard to be fun- I just enjoy driving like a lunatic, though it is getting harder after the 3rd championship, the Face off races are tricky.

[+Cafeman]

Some things about Burnout that I had to learn to beat races:

 

First , if you are ever in 4th place, keep a cautious eye on the 3rd place car because it tends to crash in front of you and cause a pile-up which you WILL hit. I'd bet B2 has the same tendency (but I'm always in first or 2nd place so far, so I haven't tested it).

 

Drive down the oncoming lanes with your car centered over lane lines. Will subtle adjustments you can weave between cars and build up your meter. In B2, the meter fills up faster and jumps now fill it up, making things a bit easier. However, in B2 once you let go or the R trigger, you can't use the rest of the Boost until you fill it up again. In Burnout, once it filled, you could use it a bit at a time until it was gone.

 

You must drift and keep yourself in a controlled drift so you don't hit the sure-to-be-there oncoming car / wreck!

 

Learn the patterns of the cross traffic. I can't tell you how many times in Burnout I hit cross traffic. I find it much easy to see & avoid cross traffic in B2, so far at least.

 

I like the game and I also don't think it needs to be incredibly difficult for it to be good. If I want difficulty I'll play DC Sega Rally 2. Different kind of game.

[+Cafeman]

Played some more, figured I'd post a comment or two.

 

I think that my earlier comment of finding B2 easier than B1 can be clarified: B2 simply has a lot more to it, and the earlier races are easier than the first races of B1. Now that I'm in the Custom Championship, I am finding plenty of fun challenge! Especially trying to get all Golds in the one Championship which is 5 or 6 individual races. There's nothing more infuriating that getting 4 Golds then a Silver, meaning you have to start over!

 

This game is just fast fast fast. Over at AlwaysGame forums a few months ago, somebody commented that Burnout 2 is a spiritual successor to Outrun, and I can agree with that!

 

Burnout 2 has SO MUCH MORE stuff in it than its predecessor. The Crash Junction part is really a lot of fun. There are a few that I got Silvers on but just couldn't achieve the Gold. Well, good, that means I have something to chip away at over the next month.

 

Question: can you play Pursuit mode with 2 players split screen? If you can, I must not have unlocked it yet.

[+Cafeman]

I beat all 30 Crash Junctions with a Gold medal last night! YEEHAW!

 

All I got was a new car -- the Driver's Ed car! Bwuhahahaha!

(EDIT -- nope, I got the Driver's Ed car from getting Golds on the Racing 101 course. I got a Cheat from the Crash Junction golds!).

 

I'm having trouble getting all Golds on 2 Custom Championship races. Might be the car I'm using (the fast green custom one) on the windy mountain & snow tracks.

[liveinabin]

Well done with the crashes. All 30! nice.

Like you, I'm still soldiering through the Custom championship.

Getting 4,5 golds in a row is nothing short of maddening sometimes. I have to limit my Custom Championship play to when I'm in a good mood, or I might waste the controller

I'm still using the Supercar. There's nothing else I've seen yet with the same balance of ability as that.

 

As for being the spiritual successor to Out Run. yeah, it is. AND the successor to Chase HQ, Buggy Boy, Need for Speed and Daytona while it's at it. It's only the slightly unimaginative course layouts and music that stop it surplanting the mighty Ridge Racer 4 in my affections (I know I said it completely substituted the former, but somehow Ridge always comes shining through in the end)

[+Cafeman]

BUMP.

 

Wow, I simply can NOT get all golds in any of the Custom Championships! I only play one or two races a night, and I usually mess up on one of the races & get a silver or bronze.

 

This morning I had a free hour before work and I figured out a way to make it easier on myself. In a 4 race Championship, it saves after every race. So if I have 2 Golds and I know I'm not going to get a Gold in the 3rd race, I just turn the system off and reload. Then I can re-race the 3rd one , repeat as necessary.

 

It'd be nice if I could pause a bad race & do a soft reset. If that's possible, I don't know how. You can't retire out of a race or else it saves.

[liveinabin]

I'm at the same place as you now (all crashes Gold, still stuck on final championships). I usually reset in the middle of a bad race. It's just not fun not to

[Clint Thompson]

What a GREAT game.... anyone see the video I made of it here in this section? ::

 

http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.p...ght=burnout%202

[liveinabin]

I've had a few instances (mainly in 2 player) where the car has just flown off into space. I don't think any game is bug free.

[+Cafeman]

No bugs to report here, but I really think it's cool how many different ways you can wreck in Burnout 2.

 

On one course I hit a hilly bump off-road and caught some air, landing on the other side of the road (also hilly) on the two right wheels, and the car flipped up in the air and then the game registered that I had officially crashed.

 

In one of the snowy mountainous courses, I hit the side of the road too hard and broke through the 'rail' there, skidding to a stop inside the off-road area. That was really cool, that I didn't just bounce off the rail.

 

I love seeing debris on the road (side panels , bumpers). You can hit the debris but this doesn't cause a crash. B2 is a lot more fair about crashing than Burnout was; in the original game, if you'd crash if you even slightly rear-ended a vehicle.

[liveinabin]

I love that course (forget the name) with that one only bumpy stretch of road. My wife went down most of that on 1 wheel!

 

I managed to flip the Supercar a good 1/2 mile over the top of a truck. I wish you could save the replays, I'd love to watch that again.

 

By the way, as you've played 1 and 2, is it worth getting 1 or does this just completely replace it?

[+Cafeman]

I think you might enjoy Burnout 1 but only after you've completely exhausted Burnout 2. B1 suffers a slight music and visual downgrade but nothing drastic.

 

B1 is also harder, in a 'cheaper difficulty' sense. B1's 'rules' for building & the use of your Burn meter are different. There's a lot of infuriating crashes as you hit the broadside of traffic, I remember that well. I loved the time I played the game, however! At $15.00 used, why not?