Fireworld for $60

[Atarian7]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...81&category=352

[vb_master]

lol

[Gregory DG]

And (looks like) the Pal version too...

[homerwannabee]

That brings me to an interesting question"Has anyone noticed that people are willing to pay more for atari 2600 games in europe?

[UK WOMBLE]

That brings me to an interesting question"Has anyone noticed that people are willing to pay more for atari 2600 games in europe?

 

 

Everythings more expensive in the UK, not just videogames. Plus, remember, theres a lot more 2600 stuff knocking around in the US, its not quite so common in the UK, we're quite a small country really (Landmass, not power ! , we still kick a little ass from time to time.)

 

Lots of games are only available on ntsc, not pal. Its stupid really, but its actually cheaper for me to buy my carts in the US and pay airmail prices to have them sent over. Even at Cpuwiz's high prices !!

 

Strangely enough they usually arrive faster than those I buy on ebay UK, not sure what that says about us really......

 

 

I'd like a nice US coinop, but I suspect the shipping may be fairly steep.........

 

Si

[Xevious]

Spirantho is the high bidder. He knows something we don't.

[MattG/Snyper2099]

I know that the solutions for the PAL versions of Fireworld and Earthworld are completely different than their NTSC counterparts. Also, PAL versions of both these games are harder to find than you think. I rarely see them on any ebay site (worldwide) in PAL format. These two factors probably drove the price up but, I still don't think they are worth $60... maybe $20-$25

[Clock]

I am not sure how rare they are but I've got a loose earthworld (Pal) which I swapped for a common game so I'm guessing it's not that rare.

[Albert]

I know that the solutions for the PAL versions of Fireworld and Earthworld are completely different than their NTSC counterparts.

 

These games have solutions??

 

..Al

[deathtrappomegranate]

Hehehe!

 

Spirantho is nobody's fool.

 

Yes, this cart is much rarer in PAL. And yes, the solution is not the same as the NTSC version.

 

One day, Atariage will have rarities on many more non-US items. And Madonna will be President. And Dan Quayle will be on the cover of Rolling Stone.

[Spirantho]

Heh.. you noticed the Swordquest, then... thought you would!

 

Two things:

1) My employers finally paid me my backpay so I`m a bit more affluent at the moment

2) This is the first time in *ages* I've seen a definite PAL Fireworld with instructions come up like that. Yeah, I know it's a lot, but I've been looking for a PAL SQ for a while, and they're always NTSC. Apparently there was a boxed earthworld the other day for a fiver BIN which lasted about 5 seconds... missed that (grr!). There's a boxed EW without instructions at the moment for a few quid (Hi Womble. ) but I'd rather have the instructions than the box.

 

Having said that, of course, there'll be another 50 of the things coming up in the next week as people see that auction and the eBay effect kicks in!

 

S'funny, Gregory hit the nail on the head saying it was the PAL version, but judging by the probably doesn`t realise that some games are a lot scarcer and more valuable PAL - especially when the game is quite different to the NTSC like in this case. In all I'd rather not have paid that much for it, obviously, but then... you can`t take it with you, can you?

 

BTW - is the PAL ROM dumped? It's not on AtariAge...

[Spirantho]

I am not sure how rare they are but I've got a loose earthworld (Pal) which I swapped for a common game so I'm guessing it's not that rare.

 

Not absolutely sure about this, but I think the Earthworld PAL is more common than Fireworld PAL. Oh for a PAL rarity list... Say, IBP - do you have a list differentiating between PAL and NTSC on carts like this?

 

Don`t suppose you've got another to swap though have you?

[Clock]

Spirantho has been at this too long to waste money on a common - and checking IBPs Pal rarity (frequency?) list he is keeping, Fireworld has only appeared twice before and earthworld just once. I am not sure when he started collecting figures but I would guess 6-7 months.

 

So if only 2 have appeared before on ebay.co.uk in the last 7 months then I'd guess its a fairly rare Pal cart.

[Spirantho]

I'm not sure that IBP's list differentiates between the two... I *think* he lists carts that come up in Europe, and that's not the same thing, as 90% of the SQs I've seen - even in Europe - have been NTSC.

 

IBP will have to confirm that though.

[IBP]

Correct; I have no idea if they are PAL or NTSC. I happen to know that at least one each of the earthworlds and fireworlds listed are PAL, because I have them.

 

In the last 7 months there have been

2 Earthworlds

3 Fireworlds

2 Waterworlds

 

In addition I found 10 carts listed simply as 'swordquest' so there are 3 which could be any one of the above.

 

(in case anyone is paying attention and notices the total for earthworld has dropped since I last posted data, there was a mistake in the previous data which made the earthworld total also include the totals for the other 2)

 

This makes earthworld a vaguely similar rarety to waterworld over here (it's difficult to tell because the three unaccounted-for swordquests could have been earthworlds, therfore scewing the figures)

 

Whatever, it's not common here.

[Spirantho]

So, in a neat bit of statistic manipulation:

 

if we have

2 Earthworlds

3 Fireworlds

2 Waterworlds

 

We know that Waterworld is NTSC only. We also know that most of the SQ games in the UK are NTSC (certainly in my experience).

Therefore, we probably have:

1 PAL Earthworld

1 or 2 PAL Fireworlds

2 Waterworlds.

 

Therefore Waterworld is more common in the UK than SQ Fireworld, making Fireworld a rarity 10, as WW is 9. I rest my case, and I shall now go and join the government to be a spin doctor.

[IBP]

Nice.

 

"They then went on to prove that black is white and got killed on the next zebra crossing"

[IBP]

Actually, I am surprised waterworld is listed as so rare, since two have come up in the UK recently; my basic ennumeration of 1 cart in 3 months = rarety 4 makes waterworld a 4.

 

Maybe we just had lucky auctions and I'll never see one again.

[Spirantho]

Despite the apparent flippancy of my post above, there is actually an element of truth in it.

 

Waterworld _is_ quite rare, but because it's sought after it comes up on auction quite a bit... people don`t bother with the other Swordquests so much. That said, it is unusual for there to be a Waterworld in the UK - I suspect that's a bit of a freak circumstance, to be honest.

 

Either way, I would put PAL Fireworld at 6, PAL Earthworld at 5, and NTSC Waterworld at 7 or 8 - not as different as people would imagine.

 

That's just my impression though... but it's backed up by eBay at the moment.

A quick search on eBay gives:

in U.K.: 1 Earthworld (boxed, no instructions). There's an NTSC one too.

In Italy: None

In Germany: None

In France: None

In Australia: None

In US: 11 Earthworld, 9 Fireworld, 1 Waterworld.

[IBP]

Yeah, I kind of agree, although I'd say

earthworld 7

fireworld 6

waterworld 8

 

But that's just my impression too.

[Clock]

I'll have to take a look at my earthworld and see if its Pal or NTSC. If its Pal I may put it up for offers if anyone is interested.

[as_the_gavel_falls]

Someone bought my PAL Earthworld, I think it was from this thread. Don't forget to check the Archive

 

Could someone send me a scan of a pal Fireworld? aTdHvAaNnKcSe

 

Jason

[CincYnoTi]

i am fairly certain that in some distant past, i bought a boxed pal swordquest game (pretty sure it was fireworld), just so that i could get the box. it turned out to be a poor condition box which i have since upgraded with a better condition NTSC boxed game. i must still have that pal version somewhere, since i almost never sell any pal items.

[ATARIPITBULL]

I had no idea that a pal version of Swordquest games were not the same as the NTSC version. I sold a Pal HERO here for next to nothing, did I make a mistake?

 

[sku_u]

I bet the same people who bid on this are scratching their heads in bewilderment over the lofty sums us crazy Yanks pay for Obelix, Motorodeo, Ikari Warriors, Assault, Great Escape, Wall Defender and Z-Tack