New Nintendo Console in 2004

[NovaXpress]

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1...Ndpw&refer=asia

 

No further details and no talk of a US release.

[Jasoco]

"Boost Sales"? Of what? The CURRENT system? No.. who'd buy the CURRENT one knowing the NEW one is coming next year. Unless there's backwards compatibility, a new Nintendo System will FAIL and be the final nail in the coffin for Nintendo. Also, they'll have to offer to buy our existing GameCubes for at least $99 towards the new one.

 

And if it DOES get debuted next year it'll probably be another year before the US gets it. But I'll be on the edge of my seat to see what it looks like.

 

I'm a man about looks. If it don't look good, I think twice.

[Lost Monkey]

Wow.. that couldn't have been more vague...

 

The article refers to the system being released in Japan as "next generation", but also seems to infer that it is the same system as China is getting... which is not a "next generation" machine. The "next generation" comment indicates that the machine would be a successor to the GCN, but there is no way the I-Que could fit the bill.. - so - are there 2 consoles.. or is it just a badly written report?

[Jasoco]

On the other hand, if they were to get an early jump on the next generation while also getting many developers to create GOOD games, they may win the next war. But I highly don't see it happening. They'll have to bite the bullet and put DVD and CD playing in the system. People won't need it, but it will sell consoles. This has been proven. Nintendo, do you see people laughing over there? They're laughing at you for not listening to your customers.

[The Eidolon]

If I read the article correctly, there are two distinct initiatives:

 

1) A new console to be released in Japan in 2004, not disclosed

whether this will be a handheld or full-size.

 

2) For the first time, they are targeting the Chinese market. This

might be that portable N64 thing, but it's not the new console. (Which

will almost certainly come out in the US and Europe before China)

 

My guess is that the new new unit is a Game Boy update. This is where

Nintendo makes all it's money these days, and I would guess development

will be cheaper than a full new state-of-the-art system. I think if

Nintendo had spent the cash for development for a next generation

full-size system than would be ready for release next year, we would

have already heard something.

 

It will be interesting to see...

 

--The Eidolon

[Jasoco]

I just had a flash of a possible future for Nintendo.

 

Imagine a world where Nintendo only makes handhelds. Puts all their money into making the thing as POWERFUL as possible. Makes it as powerful as at least the N64 or GCN. Having no table top console of their own, they move to linking with Sony and Microsoft's consoles. They make games for the Game Boy X (Whatever they call the thing) and other consoles. At least they'd still be making consoles in a way and we'd still have franchises from them in one way or another.

 

Nintendo could be the company that links everyone together. Not just themselves.

 

It'd be betterr than them just making a sucky system and killer handheld that only gets full use if used with the sucky unsupported system. And a HELL of a lot better than just folding up and not making anything.

 

Nintendo, the path is laid in front of you. Choose wisely.

 

END TRANSMISSION

[joeybastard]

They should make a handheld that has a built in TV out soi the consumer gets the best of both worlds - portable and a console. I'd pay extra if it did both out of the box.

[King Atari]

Joey, dude, I've been thinking the same thing for awhile now. I thought it's be cool if they made a portable TV that took mini carts/discs, and also has built-in NES or SNES games or something.

[Ze_ro]

On the other hand, if they were to get an early jump on the next generation while also getting many developers to create GOOD games, they may win the next war.

 

Sega tried this with the Dreamcast, and it didn't work all that well... people ended up just waiting for the PS2, which they knew was just around the corner.

 

Perhaps it's a new Gameboy, with some sort of addition... like a built-in e-Reader, or a 3D chip (SuperFX anyone?).

 

--Zero

[Raijin Z]

Nintendo is forbidden to release a truly new Gameboy until next year at the earliest. Sony should have had the PS3 nearly complete, but Sega dropping out and Microsoft dropping in gummed up the works. Still, Diehard Gamefan (RIP) had the schedule for Playstation releases since before the PSX came out in Japan! DOWN TO THE MONTH.

[SS]

1)  A new console to be released in Japan in 2004, not disclosed  

whether this will be a handheld or full-size.

 

 

I can't help but to think that the next-gen handheld market was half the reason for going with the mini DVD format in the first place.

[Jasoco]

On the other hand, if they were to get an early jump on the next generation while also getting many developers to create GOOD games, they may win the next war.

 

Sega tried this with the Dreamcast, and it didn't work all that well... people ended up just waiting for the PS2, which they knew was just around the corner.

 

Perhaps it's a new Gameboy, with some sort of addition... like a built-in e-Reader, or a 3D chip (SuperFX anyone?).

 

--Zero

Which would mean people would have to upgrade to play the new 3D Enabled games.

[Ze_ro]

Which would mean people would have to upgrade to play the new 3D Enabled games.

 

GBA32X anyone?

 

Or maybe they'll just come out with a handheld Gamecube... that would certainly boost sales.

 

--Zero

[Jasoco]

I just had another flash.. a flash back..

 

What IF, what if back in 1991/1990, Nintendo had already had the Super FX chip ready? What if they had built it IN to the console? What IF they had PREMATURELY jump-started the 3D revolution? Instead of Starfox beig a unique game, we may have had super awesome graphical enhanced Yoshi's Island caliber games 6 years ahead of time.

 

Just think how different everything may have turned out.

 

Or what if they had released a Super FX add-on (Maybe utilizing the bottom port. Or as a cartridge pass-through.) to do it?

 

What IF? Stuff would most certainly be different. Having actual 3D games or games with ultra super effects years in advance.

 

END TRANSMISSION

[AtariYoungin]

I remember seeing something around this forum about the new system, it had concept shots and everything, it was a handheld controll that plugged directly into the TV, and you had to download the games...now, I can't find any record of this but its a pretty strong memory...or it might be a wierd dream....but im pretty sure its real.

 

edit: found it http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3198

[Ze_ro]

What IF, what if back in 1991/1990, Nintendo had already had the Super FX chip ready? What if they had built it IN to the console? What IF they had PREMATURELY jump-started the 3D revolution?

 

While we're at it, why not release the N64 in 1990 as well? Simply put, the technology wasn't ready at the time. Making whole 3D games with the SuperFX chip doesn't really turn out all that well anyways... given the quality of the SuperFX games, I don't think it would have been the revolution that the Playstation was... it just couldn't push enough polygons, or make them look good enough. I have to say that Yoshi's Island used it well, but it for the most part, it's only really for looks. The game would have been just as fun without that chip, it just wouldn't have looked as smooth.

 

it was a handheld controll that plugged directly into the TV, and you had to download the games

 

You're thinking of the iQue... and for various reasons, it's unlikely that they're talking about that here. For one, they claim it as a "next gen" system, while the iQue is basically a repackaged N64... Also, they've already made a number of announcements about the iQue, and considering all that's known about the iQue already, you think they would at least name the system in the article if that's what they were talking about.

 

Of course, they do mention that this system will be released in China... maybe they are talking about the iQue, and it's just some crossed wires within their PR department.

 

I sure hope they don't plan on introducing a brand new console at the moment... I don't think it would be a wise time to release it. I'm guessing that whatever they release will be somehow compatible with either the GBA or the Gamecube.

 

It's worth pointing out that Nintendo announced just a while back (sorry, I don't have a link at the moment) that they resumed production of the Gamecube... Seems to me that if they're still making Gamecubes, they wouldn't be releasing something that would compete with it (Yes, I know they were making NES's until fairly recently)

 

--Zero

[Jasoco]

That's why I said "IF".

 

Remember, I'm just rambling as I get them in my head.

[Ze_ro]

Gamespot has some more information... although it really isn't all that helpful. Supposedly this thing is "neither console, nor portable"... whatever that means. So what does this leave? Virtual Boy 2? Some sort of computer? Some sort of new bread-slicing technique?

 

--Zero

[Lost Monkey]

Gamespot has some more information... although it really isn't all that helpful. Supposedly this thing is "neither console, nor portable"... whatever that means. So what does this leave? Virtual Boy 2? Some sort of computer? Some sort of new bread-slicing technique?

 

Poochie!

[Nintendo Penguin]

Well... whatever they are releasing is most likely not the succesor to the GameCube. Also, I highly doubt that it is a GBA replacement. Nintendo got 12 Years out of the original GB... I expect that they are shooting to at least 5 to 6 with the current GBA.

 

Although I do not approve of the idea, my business instincts are telling me that they will release some sort of all-in-one GBA game compatible, cell phone, Palm computer thingy!

 

That is my hunch. Time will tell.

 

As for a Cube replacement, I expect them to get the jump on Sony and Microsoft by at least 6 months. I would expect to see a cube replacement for Christmas '05... Spring '06 at the absolute latest.

[Raijin Z]

Some sort of new bread-slicing technique?

 

Hiten Mtsurugi style! zanretsunintenken! Bread best be sliced!

[christianscott27]

wouldnt this I-Que thing qualify as neither as console or a handheld, in the traditional sense? if only they can come up some cute commercial showing hip teens downloading games to play in the back of their honda element...its gotta be that unless nintendo has some horrible "sega podz" like device coming. what i'd really like to see is some sort of next generation game and watch line. in any event nintendo is notorious for the announced and then oft delayed launch pattern.

[Bivotar]

IGN had this comment about what Nintendo is up to:

 

Along with the release of a new console in China, which will play Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64 games, Nintendo hopes that its financial situation will also be boosted by the launch of an unannounced "unique" game product at the end of 2004 in Japan.

 

How wild is that? A console that will play both SNES and N64 games! Some weird part of me would like one of those, eventhough I have both systems already.

 

WTF does Nintendo have up their sleeve on this mystery game product????

[Jasoco]

IGN had this comment about what Nintendo is up to:

 

Along with the release of a new console in China, which will play Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64 games, Nintendo hopes that its financial situation will also be boosted by the launch of an unannounced "unique" game product at the end of 2004 in Japan.

 

How wild is that? A console that will play both SNES and N64 games! Some weird part of me would like one of those, eventhough I have both systems already.

 

WTF does Nintendo have up their sleeve on this mystery game product????

I think it means SNES and N64 games in file format. Not Cartridge. Which would be kick-ass if it could.

 

Lord knows I wouldn't mind an all-in-one NES/SNES/N64 system that could still allow the Super Gameboy.

 

But I doubt it. It's gotta be that downloadable games system controller thingy.

[Raijin Z]

It's gotta be that downloadable games system controller thingy.

Which is exactly why it will fail most spectacularly.