JagMX Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 Im new here, I jumped over from Jaguar Interactive 2, due to the hostility on that board. Just wanted to know if this board doesnt have the slandering, flamers, nasty comments and poking fun at someone who asks a simple question, no critizism, no ego inflated heads and so on.... Those who spoke on JI2 on this board know what im talking about... Thanx for the answers in Advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmi Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 Welcome to Atariage, and Ask away if we can help you we will as for, slandering, flamers, nasty comments and poking fun at someone who asks a simple question, no critizism, no ego inflated heads and so on...., there are some ego's here but not like JI2 we are a friendly bunch so ask anything you want and take a look at the rest of the boards and especially off topic there you will see how much fun we have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fretwobbler Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 Im gonna poke fun at ya JagHammer - quote »àñthôñÿ« Youve spent far too long learning the ascii charachter set, you must be boring. Just kidding Welcome. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 quoteIm new here, I jumped over from Jaguar Interactive 2, due to the hostility on that board. I strongly prefer the atariage board - simply because it has a nice search veature, allows threading of posts, keeps a good archive, etc. Many others have suggested before on JI2 that either the posting software be upgraded or that folks make use of this board instead, but a majority of the "old timers" take umbrage at that suggestion - probably more for sentimental reasons then anything else. Although I will be using this board more and more, I imagine that I'll still pop over to JI2 on a daily basis just to see what's new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_J-64 Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 flamers, nasty comments thats all I've got when I go there the only time I go here to see whats going on with BS! I know about the ego thing! I think about it when I get BS I well not be going to JI II! Carl is the one that dont flam anyone! I'm not shure why he goes here? [ 02-04-2002: Message edited by: walter_J64 ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagMX Posted February 5, 2002 Author Share Posted February 5, 2002 Thanx for the nice welcome, Its much better than the one i recieved on JI2, and im sure you can guess what kind it was. I checked out most of this site and the message boards... very cool site, board and people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatdan Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 In response to someguy up the page... While I will probably start to post here once in a while, I definately do not like this style more. Jaguar Interactive II is a place that many of us go to have an open forum discussion. If you need to see links, you click on the bottom of the page. If you want to respond directly to someone, you can do that... And just a nice note for you if you are still planning on visiting JI2, the code is actually in the process of getting updated to include all of the things you ask for -- a nice search feature, threading of posts, and a good archive -- by Gary Heil, the same guy that coded 98% of the GOAT Store's site. If everything goes as it looks like it will, it won't be long until both newbies and old timers like the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 quote: Originally posted by someguy: ... but a majority of the "old timers" take umbrage at that suggestion - probably more for sentimental reasons then anything else. I resemble that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatdan Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 Let me add a note to this that I definately plan on posting here for a long time though, especially in the 2600 forum where I haven't been part of a good board for a long, long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 quote: Originally posted by GOAT Dan: While I will probably start to post here once in a while, I definately do not like this style more. Jaguar Interactive II is a place that many of us go to have an open forum discussion. If you need to see links, you click on the bottom of the page. If you want to respond directly to someone, you can do that... I'm not quite sure what you mean by an "open forum discussion". Do you mean being able to see all the threads on a single page? If so, I much prefer this format, as you can read just the threads you're interested in, and it's much easier to keep tabs on those threads. I can see your point about nested threads so you can see who's responding to what, but I believe this format keeps the threads a little more organized and less chaotic. You can easily quote individual messages (or just parts of them) if you'd like people to see what you're responding to when you reply to a post (as I did with your message). As for links, I like being able to intersperse links within my messages, as opposed to being confined to a single link at the bottom of a message. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 quoteJaguar Interactive II is a place that many of us go to have an open forum discussion. Unfortunately JI2 seems a little *too* open the last day or two. Trying to read through the posts for Jag-relevant info is like reading the graffiti on a bathroom wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 quote: Originally posted by JagHammer: Im new here, I jumped over from Jaguar Interactive 2, due to the hostility on that board. Just wanted to know if this board doesnt have the slandering, flamers, nasty comments and poking fun at someone who asks a simple question, no critizism, no ego inflated heads and so on.... Those who spoke on JI2 on this board know what im talking about... Thanx for the answers in Advance Yeah. There's too much flaming going on over there. It's too hard to find the Jaguar posts or see my responses to them! Thunderbird ScatoLOGIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatdan Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 Albert: By open, I mean that I don't usually post a lot in boards where you cannot directly respond to someone else's post. For instance, since 'someguy' posted after your message but before I posted, my response will be under his and not directly where I feel it should be. I guess it is a personal nit-pick with me. If you aren't going to read through every message, it really doesn't matter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 quote: Originally posted by GOAT Dan: By open, I mean that I don't usually post a lot in boards where you cannot directly respond to someone else's post. For instance, since 'someguy' posted after your message but before I posted, my response will be under his and not directly where I feel it should be. Yeah, it is a bit different in that you're adding your message to the "end" of the thread, as opposed to somewhere in the middle. When you're just adding to the discussion in linear fashion, not responding to any one person specifically, that's fine. And when you do need to address a specific point that someone has made, you just quote them as I've done above. With forums of this nature, you quickly learn that the each subsequent poster isn't (always) responding directly to the poster above. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Helper Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 One thing about UBB Forums, they take a few days to get used to but once that happens you rarely want to go back to anything else. I used to be hooked on JII style boards a long time ago until my forum went UBB and I have not looked back since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatdan Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 Adrian: Thanks for the trust! Just kidding... The people that start the 'wars' on JI2 are the people who tend to be faceless, and they will post under two or three different names at a time so that people can defend themselves. The majority of the board isn't a problem. Helper: I've actually been a member of a UBB style board for almost the same amount of time as JI2 (non-video game related), and I have never adapted to it nor learned to like it. UBB Boards aren't horrendous, but for being able to debate one on one, they just can't beat your good ol' HTML pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian M Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 I just hope all these JI2 refugees don't come to this board and start their flaming wars here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 Adrian: Don't worry, if they do they'll not only be in a seperate (ignorable) thread, but they can have their IPs banned too No worries mate. Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 While JI2's format never bothered me, I got right into it, I do prefer this style and all of the extras that can be done like adding in pics or animations, etc. (not that I've used these options yet, but seeing other people do it is fun). I'm glad all you "newbies" (to this board, not the Jag) could come...I like the expanded format here a LOT with all the other systems from Atari having their own area plus places to talk about any system you want to or anything at all, It's the "general store" approach as opposed to the "specialty store." Welcome, one and all, but please extinguish all flames before entering, this is a non-smoking board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatdan Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 Traditionally, you could post pictures and links and use HTML code where ever you wanted in JI messages. Then suddenly in 1997 I believe, someone thought it would be fun to post under an anonymous IP tons of porn images, one per message. Thus, picture posting got banned. HTML code got banned after someone started putting pop-up ads into their messages... With the whole registration of this board, it makes it so that such abuses cannot happen. Good, in many ways... dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 quote: Originally posted by someguy: Some folks don't like moderated forums because they think it interferes with their right to free speech, but I think with rights come responsibilities. If you want the right to free speech, you need to be responsible for what you say - and if that means you think that gives you the right to abuse others, then be prepared for the consequences. We do very little moderating here, and what little we do is usually just moving off-topic posts to the appropriate forum (this happens most often with the 2600 board, since it gets the most traffic). The only time we've removed messages have been those from the occasional troll, most especially insulting and obscene messages directed at individuals. There have been several "heated" discussions here, but certainly they have been more tempered than what I've seen on JI2. Fortunately these discussions have never gotten wildly out of control. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatdan Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 quote: someguy: Some folks don't like moderated forums because they think it interferes with their right to free speech, but I think with rights come responsibilities. If you want the right to free speech, you need to be responsible for what you say - and if that means you think that gives you the right to abuse others, then be prepared for the consequences. Technically, since the Web sites on the internet are private domains, there is no such thing as free speech on them. The Web master has his or her right to delete anything that I, or anyone else says on their board. I know for a fact that JI2 had attempted to ban serveral individuals, but the code to do so was written incorrectly. It has since been fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 quote: Originally posted by GOAT Dan: I know for a fact that JI2 had attempted to ban serveral individuals, but the code to do so was written incorrectly. It has since been fixed. The only way you can really ban people is by creating a private forum and allowing access to only those you trust. Outside of that, you might be able to temporarily "ban" someone (by banning their IP address or email address), but there are many ways around these temporary "solutions". Typically people who need to be banned just want attention, so if you ignore them they'll usually go away. It's when people respond to their posts that things start heating up and getting out of control. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 I think if there were some kind of ID registration process for JI2, that might solve a lot of problems. Users could be given a 24 hour ban for abuse, and a permanent ban if they continue to be an annoyance. Some folks don't like moderated forums because they think it interferes with their right to free speech, but I think with rights come responsibilities. If you want the right to free speech, you need to be responsible for what you say - and if that means you think that gives you the right to abuse others, then be prepared for the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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