Rayman rules!

[goatdan]

I've got back into RayMan lately. I can't believe that this game was going to be a Jaguar exclusive for a while! Other than the breakout game, does anyone know of anything else that is exclusive to this version of the game?

 

Has anyone ever got every cage in the game? I'm trying to do that, but I can't figure out where a few of them are.

 

Thanks!

[+davidcalgary29]

I've got back into RayMan lately.  I can't believe that this game was going to be a Jaguar exclusive for a while!  Other than the breakout game, does anyone know of anything else that is exclusive to this version of the game?

 

My selection for the category of "I can't believe this was a Jaguar exclusive!" is BattleMorph. I'm surprised no one else picked this one up.

 

Has anyone ever got every cage in the game?  I'm trying to do that, but I can't figure out where a few of them are.

 

Thanks!

 

I'm currently trying to do this myself. Some of the cages are hidden in the unlikliest of spots in the lower levels of the game and can only be found by using powers acquired later in the game.[/b]

[Gregory DG]

I played it a lot when I first got it. Couldn't get past those rocks levels and I never did get all the cages. Even with a cage tutorial map or something it's nigh on impossible! Why did ubi make this game so frickin hard?

[JagChris]

Its a damn good game. I've been working on trying to beat it as well. I"m up to 80% found or something. But I've been neglecting it lately.

 

Another platformer I like on the Jag is Pitfall:The Mayan Adventure. Has anyone found all the secrets on this without cheating?

[Htbaa]

I played it a lot when I first got it. Couldn't get past those rocks levels and I never did get all the cages. Even with a cage tutorial map or something it's nigh on impossible! Why did ubi make this game so frickin hard?

 

Yeah I had the same problem! Some rockguy started following you. I wasn't fast enough . But Rayman always have been a lot of fun!

[PeterG]

It is a very cool game, ab bit hard but I played it to completition and couldn't stop. Although you guys are right that some cages are incredibly hard to find. I wonder if one could get into that Box on the map, that you can only see one corner of....

Peter

[goatdan]

So does anyone else know if there anything else Jag-specific in it? I seem to remember that Ubisoft planned on doing a bunch of extras in the Jaguar release. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?

[MegaData]

RayBreakout is the only extra I noticed and the only one mentioned in the credits... I got 100% of the cages too. My question is, is there an end to RayBreakout? It certainly would've been cooler if there was a way to keep score on the breakout game!

[PeterG]

I always imagined that something very cool would happen at the end of Breakout, but i never was able to get past some levels there and I didn't bother anymore.....

I think you get some cheatcodes or something. Other than that I don't know of any special thing. I remember though that in the PS or Saturn version you have rain, and can transform in a Mini-Rayman...

Peter

[Creekree]

i just got rayman off ebay for 10,50 euro + shipping.

even though it´s just thecart without any extras i still think it´s a good price.

i am looking forward to play it - only thing i know about this game are some screenshots and the fact that most people actually seem to enjoy it!

 

creekree-waits-for-rayman-to-be-delivered

[ZylonBane]

I always imagined that something very cool would happen at the end of Breakout

If you beat all the levels, you get some extra lives.

[MegaData]

How do you get extra lives? Once the credits roll past, it goes to the start-up screen and you have to load your last save point. That doesn't make sense that you get more lives. You can keep going to the level with the raybreakout code, written in the blue gems, to get extra lives... I think it's level three, but don't quote me on that. ; )

[Zaxxon]

A bit hard? This game is brain-burstingly hard! I used that 256 lives cheat and started to worry about running out of lives before finishing. You just die over and over and over and over. It's kind of addictive just to see what's next. The game world is HUGE and the graphics are beautiful. I always read that cheat that claimed you could push option or something in the game to blow a "raspberry" and it would scare away mushrooms or something. There's an animation but no sound and nothing reacts to it.

[Lastblade]

Tough tough game, but awesome tho.

[jedijeff]

I thought Rayman was one of the Jag's best games. The only problem I had was that they delayed the release for months. Surprisingly enough, when it was finally released, the playstation version was released as well. I wonder how much Sony paid to have that happen?

 

Jeff

[JagChris]

According to reports, the Jag version of Rayman was finished a full year before the Playstation version and Sony DID pay them off to hold back the release.

[Zaxxon]

reports from where/who? sounds like the net rumor about coleco crippling their games for atari and intv that's now treated as fact. It probably takes 3x as long to develop a jag game as a ps game.

[JagChris]

I think I read about it at The Atari Times, but I could be mistaken. Its been a while. Although this is just what I've heard, and I kind of tend to believe it, since I remember that era quite well, and the Jag version was done WAY before the PS version was.

[Agent X]

Has anyone ever got every cage in the game?

 

Yes, I have!

 

My selection for the category of "I can't believe this was a Jaguar exclusive!" is BattleMorph. I'm surprised no one else picked this one up.

 

I agree. Even if the game itself wasn't ported, it would've been nice to see another sequel (kind of like what happened with Iron Soldier 3, which was released on PlayStation and NUON).

 

According to reports, the Jag version of Rayman was finished a full year before the Playstation version and Sony DID pay them off to hold back the release.

 

Although I've heard this before, I've never seen any firm proof that Sony paid off Ubi Soft to delay the game. The "official" story back then was that the Jaguar version was ready back in July 1995, but there was some sort of production snag, and this pushed it back two months.

 

I don't think this delay made a major difference in the grand scheme of things. The PlayStation version only beat the Jaguar version to market by a mere four days. That's not enough time to really change people's minds on a system, particularly when you consider that at that time, Rayman was still a new and unproven game that practically no one outside of the hardcore Jaguar community knew about. Anyone who owned a Jaguar and really followed that system knew the game was coming for the Jaguar, and probably waited to see how it would turn out. I myself had a PlayStation at launch (in addition to the Jaguar); although I'd say the PlayStation version was slightly better (mainly because of the CD music), I ended up buying the Jaguar version anyway after the price dropped to $39.99 about three months later.

[JagChris]

Although I've heard this before, I've never seen any firm proof that Sony paid off Ubi Soft to delay the game. The "official" story back then was that the Jaguar version was ready back in July 1995, but there was some sort of production snag, and this pushed it back two months.

 

Production snag=Sony has given us $$$$ to hold off production. Do I have proof? No. But I wouldn't put it past them.

 

 

 

I don't think this delay made a major difference in the grand scheme of things. The PlayStation version only beat the Jaguar version to market by a mere four days. That's not enough time to really change people's minds on a system, particularly when you consider that at that time, Rayman was still a new and unproven game that practically no one outside of the hardcore Jaguar community knew about.

 

In a just world the PS version wouldn't have come anywhere close to coming out first. If the game had been released a year earlier on the Jag, a lot of people would not have wanted to wait that long for it to come out on the PSX and would have bought Jags to play it. Yes it would of made a difference in the grand scheme of things. Would it of saved Atari and the Jag? I don't know. I doubt it. But it would of made a difference.

[goatdan]

I agree. Even if the game itself wasn't ported, it would've been nice to see another sequel (kind of like what happened with Iron Soldier 3, which was released on PlayStation and NUON).

 

Slightly off-topic, is PSX Iron Soldier 3 any good? I didn't like 1, loved 2 and I bought 3 but haven't yet sat down with it because I think that the controller set up will probably ruin it. Any opinions?

 

Although I've heard this before, I've never seen any firm proof that Sony paid off Ubi Soft to delay the game. The "official" story back then was that the Jaguar version was ready back in July 1995, but there was some sort of production snag, and this pushed it back two months.

 

I don't think this delay made a major difference in the grand scheme of things. The PlayStation version only beat the Jaguar version to market by a mere four days. That's not enough time to really change people's minds on a system, particularly when you consider that at that time, Rayman was still a new and unproven game that practically no one outside of the hardcore Jaguar community knew about. Anyone who owned a Jaguar and really followed that system knew the game was coming for the Jaguar, and probably waited to see how it would turn out. I myself had a PlayStation at launch (in addition to the Jaguar); although I'd say the PlayStation version was slightly better (mainly because of the CD music), I ended up buying the Jaguar version anyway after the price dropped to $39.99 about three months later.

 

Well...

 

I don't necessarily think that Rayman would have immediately changed too many of the consumer's minds over whether to purchase a Jaguar or not, but I think that it would have made a huge difference in the minds of developers. If I saw that game as a developer in mid-1995, I would think the Jag had a lot more potential than the earlier games had shown (Bubsy, Double Dragon V, etc.) and I would've given it a second look into actually producing stuff for it.

 

Just a thought.

[PeterG]

Slightly off-topic, is PSX Iron Soldier 3 any good? I didn't like 1, loved 2 and I bought 3 but haven't yet sat down with it because I think that the controller set up will probably ruin it. Any opinions?

 

Yeah I bought it a few month ago for 5€ and must say that it it is really nice. You woul expect that the graphics are better since it is on PS, but otherwise it feels a lot like IS 1 and 2. That is also my only complaint because there is nothing new expect the graphics, one new Roboter and some gimmicks like hovering, and having a shild and being invisible.

But if you liked one of the former IS games you will have a blast, because everything is in there. From the convoy missions I hate, to destroying buildings and ships and everything...very cool game and it has also a two player option which is very nice.

The even included a Jaguar controller setup so you won't have to worry Dan. The only thing that sucks is that you have to cycle through the weapons without the keypad...ah welll.

Nice game,play it :-)

Peter

 

 

I don't necessarily think that Rayman would have immediately changed too many of the consumer's minds over whether to purchase a Jaguar or not, but I think that it would have made a huge difference in the minds of developers. If I saw that game as a developer in mid-1995, I would think the Jag had a lot more potential than the earlier games had shown (Bubsy, Double Dragon V, etc.) and I would've given it a second look into actually producing stuff for it.

 

Just a thought.

[PeterG]

Slightly off-topic, is PSX Iron Soldier 3 any good? I didn't like 1, loved 2 and I bought 3 but haven't yet sat down with it because I think that the controller set up will probably ruin it. Any opinions?

 

Yeah I bought it a few month ago for 5€ and must say that it it is really nice. You woul expect that the graphics are better since it is on PS, but otherwise it feels a lot like IS 1 and 2. That is also my only complaint because there is nothing new expect the graphics, one new Roboter and some gimmicks like hovering, and having a shild and being invisible.

But if you liked one of the former IS games you will have a blast, because everything is in there. From the convoy missions I hate, to destroying buildings and ships and everything...very cool game and it has also a two player option which is very nice.

The even included a Jaguar controller setup so you won't have to worry Dan. The only thing that sucks is that you have to cycle through the weapons without the keypad...ah welll.

Nice game,play it :-)

Peter

 

 

I don't necessarily think that Rayman would have immediately changed too many of the consumer's minds over whether to purchase a Jaguar or not, but I think that it would have made a huge difference in the minds of developers. If I saw that game as a developer in mid-1995, I would think the Jag had a lot more potential than the earlier games had shown (Bubsy, Double Dragon V, etc.) and I would've given it a second look into actually producing stuff for it.

 

Just a thought.

[PeterG]

Sorry for the double post.

And then I forgot the half

I liked your point on Rayman, concerning the developers.

It's too bad that the better games came out that late....

Imagine people saw Rayman, Battlemorph or even Battlesphere before....

peter

[Mendon]

Rayman holds a "Love-Hate" place in my collection for me:

 

Love the graphics, gameplay, smoothness, control... and Rayman is an awesome character.

 

But its also one of the more frustrating games for me too because its HARD. I want to play and beat the game so bad but find its one of those games that on later lvl's has me wanting to fling my controller against the wall at times.

 

Great, great game though and glad I have it.

 

Mendon