Robert M #1 Posted April 1, 2004 Damn! http:www.lemon64.com Lemon to be closed due to copyright infringment!My host forwarded me a not so pleasant email yesterday. They were contacted by an organization which only mission is to protect their members copyrights, and as such closing gaming and emulation sites. A lot of you probably know which bastards I'm talking about. This organization claims that Lemon uses pieces of copyrighted games by providing screenshots and music for download. What can I say?! Well, I have no option. Therefore Lemon will be closed within 24 hours, so enjoy it while you can. I'd like to thank all contributors, donators and visitors for the great support and the forum users who made Lemon a great hang out. R.I.P. - C64 forever! - Kim Lemon This sucks! Is AtariAge going to get bothered by these bastards next? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaXpress #2 Posted April 1, 2004 I assume that this is the enemy: http://www.ironstonepartners.com/index.html They promised not to go after sites like lemon64, this is some horrid public relations. If anyone had the money to challenge them in court, Ironstone would probably lose beccause the C64 copyright has been ignored and abused for so long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sku_u #3 Posted April 1, 2004 This really sucks. I was just getting into that site. Then again...It is April 1 in the UK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaXpress #4 Posted April 1, 2004 This would be one hell of a bad joke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ApolloBoy #5 Posted April 1, 2004 This would be one hell of a bad joke. Yeah, tommorow's April Fool's Day... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saikyo #6 Posted April 1, 2004 But I dont think this is a joke THIS IS A MESSAGE TO THE ISDA JUST BECAUSE OF A SCREENSHOT OR A PICTURE DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHTS TO SHUT DOWN A SITE HOWEVER IF THERE IS ROMS THEN I UNDERSTAND BUT SURLEY THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST A WAY OF LEARNING WHAT GAMES EXIST?!?!?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sku_u #7 Posted April 1, 2004 But I dont think this is a joke THIS IS A MESSAGE TO THE ISDA JUST BECAUSE OF A SCREENSHOT OR A PICTURE DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHTS TO SHUT DOWN A SITE HOWEVER IF THERE IS ROMS THEN I UNDERSTAND BUT SURLEY THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST A WAY OF LEARNING WHAT GAMES EXIST?!?!?!?! Using screenshots are not illegal. It's no different from quoting a passage from a book or taking a picture of a building and posting it on a site. Which is why if this isn't a joke, I'm amazed the site owners would lay down like they are. A company can bitch and moan all they want. They'd be laughed out of court. besides, it's just an April Fool's Day joke. I'm still waiting for your punchline Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saikyo #8 Posted April 1, 2004 Precisley! No I dont think so check out lemon64! all the JPEG images have been removed already! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saikyo #9 Posted April 1, 2004 April 5th is april fools day Not april 1st! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sku_u #10 Posted April 1, 2004 April 5th is april fools day Not april 1st! On what planet BTW, the JPEGs are still there. I'm on that page right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ApolloBoy #11 Posted April 1, 2004 April 5th is april fools day Not april 1st! Since when? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ze_ro #12 Posted April 1, 2004 I really hope this is just an April Fools joke... --Zero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saikyo #13 Posted April 1, 2004 yeah made a mistake with the date And although the site isn't down as of yet! the disclaimer still shows so it looks like its true like i said! Also check my thread in the emulation forum about Zophars! Very tragic indeed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sku_u #14 Posted April 1, 2004 Try the site now and look at the general discussion thread, site closing, page 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert #15 Posted April 2, 2004 Try the site now and look at the general discussion thread, site closing, page 3 I would, but they require you to register in order to read the messages, which I'm not about to do (I think it's silly to force people to register just to *read* messages on a forum like this). ..Al Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saikyo #16 Posted April 2, 2004 im not registering either! any way i take it it says that it was april fools joke! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chairmonkey4406 #17 Posted April 3, 2004 It's April 3 and the site is still up so it was April Fools Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garak #18 Posted April 4, 2004 I assume that this is the enemy:http://www.ironstonepartners.com/index.html They promised not to go after sites like lemon64, this is some horrid public relations. If anyone had the money to challenge them in court, Ironstone would probably lose beccause the C64 copyright has been ignored and abused for so long. The rights haven't been really ignored. Tulip Computers (www.tulip.com) are the real owners of the Commodore name and logo trademarks (they licensed the "Commodore 64" name to Ironstone) has been using (abusing) the Commodore name for several years in making PC clones. However, Tulip/Ironstone can't enforce other game companies rights of copyright though so here they have no leg to stand on. Tulip stopped making "Commodore" PCs a few years back and has been licensing the name out to bunches of companies. Tulip besides Ironstone has plans for "Commodore" as Tulip owns this site here: www.commodore.net. The Commodore patents (of which the earliest are no doubt expiring) are owned by Gateway computers (acquired when they bought the Amiga rights). And no doubt the defunct GMT Microelectronics has some of the rights since they bought out Commodore's "MOS Technologies" (no NOT "MosTek" - completely different company that didn't have anything to do with 65xx stuff). I would, but they require you to register in order to read the messages, which I'm not about to do (I think it's silly to force people to register just to *read* messages on a forum like this). Kim only did this IIRC due to cost of server use/bandwidth reasons. Garak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert #19 Posted April 4, 2004 Kim only did this IIRC due to cost of server use/bandwidth reasons. It worked, since it stopped me in my tracks. That's actually the first time I've heard someone mention this as a reason to force registration before you can even read a forum. I guess it will stop the casual observers (like me), but just seems unfriendly and uninviting in my opinion. ..Al Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garak #20 Posted April 4, 2004 It worked, since it stopped me in my tracks. Heh, I forgot, there are also rituals involved before new people can join. That's actually the first time I've heard someone mention this as a reason to force registration before you can even read a forum. I guess it will stop the casual observers (like me), but just seems unfriendly and uninviting in my opinion. I imagine if/when Kim solves the bandwitdh issues he'll re-open the forums to public viewing. Garak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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