AlexKIDD #1 Posted April 12, 2004 i recently found a website selling jaguars for $59 and i believe they are new.it looked like a good deal and i might get one but it says they are the "european PAL version".could someone tell me what this means and can you play regular jaguar games on it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atarianer2003 #2 Posted April 12, 2004 Hi, you can play all Jaguar games on PAL or NTSC. PAL is the european TV-system. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonforce-Europe #3 Posted April 13, 2004 yes, they can scr*w them selves for talking bout european jaguars. they are region free. the power supply is also teh same. You can connect a jaguar anywhere anytime using any kind of power supply (wheter it be from teh usa, uk, germany, japan etcetc) the jaguar is also region free. What more do you want to know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrant #4 Posted April 13, 2004 You might want to check that your TV can handle PAL signals, if you're using RF (bad idea anyway) the signal will be pal encoded, and I've no idea if TV's where you are can as a general rule handle PAL RF signals. If you're using some kind of a/v cable, you've much less to worry about as the signals will be in a universal format, but the screen will be slightly taller than a standard NTSC screen. Your TV should handle that with no problems. As has been said, all games (with two exceptions) will work on all systems, and power supplies from all regions output the same levels to the Jag, so no problems there (be VERY careful about using a third party power supply however). But if you're using RF to connect your Jag to your TV, region issues come into play as not all TV's can handle both PAL and NTSC signals (many UK and European ones for example, cant read NTSC properly and display a grainy black and white image because the data is formatted differently). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stone #5 Posted April 13, 2004 they can scr*w them selves for talking bout european jaguars. they are region free. All carts work on all systems, but that's not necessarily what he was asking Jags come in at least 3 'regions': 1) American (NTSC/60Hz) 2) European (PAL/50Hz) 3) European v2 (same as above, but with no RF modulator) I believe the Japanese ones are identical to the American ones. As Tyrant said, a PAL Jaguar will work just fine on any decent TV if you use a video cable (not the RF output). Your TV will either squash the picture to fit your screen, or you'll lose the top and bottom edges of the screen. Likewise, an NTSC Jag used on a UK TV will either have the image stretched to fit, or will show it 'letterboxed' with black bars top and bottom. The image size and whether it's stretched or letterboxed is entirely down to whether the Jag's running at 50Hz or 60Hz, which is switchable via a motherboard jumper. If the TV doesn't support the colour encoding (PAL or NTSC) then it'll only display in black and white, if at all. I'd suggest you check your TV's manual (or look up on the Net) to see whether it does support a PAL video signal - many major manufacturers' sets will (for example my Sony). Hope that helped Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greenious #6 Posted April 13, 2004 i recently found a website selling jaguars for $59 and i believe they are new.it looked like a good deal and i might get one but it says they are the "european PAL version".could someone tell me what this means and can you play regular jaguar games on it? Afaik there is not a major operation to modify your jaguar to be NTSC, if you find it necessary. I read somewhere that it is a solder jumperblock for that in the jag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alcopoper #7 Posted April 20, 2004 What is the Web site?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greenious #8 Posted April 20, 2004 here is the info taken from the Jaguar-FAQ: " The 50Hz/60Hz frame rate is set by soldering pads on the bottom of the Jaguar PCB. On an NTSC Jaguar, they're located on the bottom of the PCB near the controller ports. The set labelled "R140" determines between 50Hz and 60Hz. Connect the two points for 50Hz, or leave them disconnected for 60Hz, as follows: 60Hz 50Hz o-o R135 o-o o o R136 o o (Information courtesy of Martin Zimmer, o o R137 o o [email protected]) o o R140 o-o PAL Jaguars sold in Europe have the R140 pads connected with a zero ohm SMD resistor, which can be removed with a soldering iron. It is possible to wire a switch to the points, allowing the Jaguar to be toggled between 50Hz/60Hz. This is mainly useful for PAL Jaguars to play games at the original speed and screen resolution of the NTSC version. Russ Juckes ([email protected]) gives these instructions for finding the pads on a European/PAL Jaguar: "Hold the Jaguar PCB with the Joystick ports to the bottom. On the underside of the board, near the joystick ports, and to the left of centre there are four links, the top and the bottom one bridged. (Both with zero ohm resistors). Above them there is another link, with a brown resistor. "The bottom link is the one that needs to be broken. I used a penknife to scratch away the solder, and then a needle-nosed pair of pliers to break the resistor. "The links are *not* labelled in any way. As another guide to make sure you are about to snip the correct link, they are placed directly underneath a chip (which is obviously on the top of the PCB!) so if you use a soldering iron, be careful!" " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stone #9 Posted April 21, 2004 Greenious: That's 100% irrelevant to what he's asking. That info allows you to change between 50Hz and 60Hz framerates; whether the console is NTSC or PAL is determined at its construction and is fixed. If you have a PAL console then all the fiddling with R140 in the world isn't going to make it PAL. Just so you know Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greenious #10 Posted April 21, 2004 Greenious: That's 100% irrelevant to what he's asking. That info allows you to change between 50Hz and 60Hz framerates; whether the console is NTSC or PAL is determined at its construction and is fixed. If you have a PAL console then all the fiddling with R140 in the world isn't going to make it PAL. Just so you know Stone Eh, dang... I actually knew that. Just didn't think before I posted... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinkoVitch #11 Posted April 21, 2004 I believe the Japanese ones are identical to the American ones. I read somewhere that Japan has PAL60 which is same as UK pal but at 60Hz.. so I would think they are more likley to be similar or identical to European Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parasyte #12 Posted April 21, 2004 I believe the Japanese ones are identical to the American ones. I read somewhere that Japan has PAL60 which is same as UK pal but at 60Hz.. so I would think they are more likley to be similar or identical to European I don't know about that! Japan is dominately NTSC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites