Adrian M #1 Posted April 15, 2004 Factor 5 forgoes GameCube development But the Rogue Squadron III studio says it is "excited" about Nintendo's upcoming consoles. For the second time in as many days, a GameCube-exclusive studio has revealed it is developing games for other consoles. Yesterday, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes creator Silicon Knights announced the end of its second-party deal with Nintendo, but stressed it was still on good terms with the publisher. Today, similar noises could be heard emanating from the offices of San Rafael, CA-based Factor 5. Word leaked today that the creator of the Rogue Squadron series--the GameCube's premiere Star Wars franchise--had ceased development for the console. Even though Factor 5 was technically not second-party developer--"We've never been a Nintendo shop," president Julian Eggebrecht told GameSpot--the studio was perceived as such. Its last non-Nintendo game was 1999's Star Wars: Rogue Squadron 3D for the PC. However, Eggebrecht was quick to dispel any "doom" that might surround Factor 5's announcement. Echoing Silicon Knights founder Denis Dyack, he emphasized his enthusiasm for Nintendo's future console efforts. "We are extremely excited about both DS and GCNext, so any talk of us abandoning Nintendo platforms altogether is just not true," he told GameSpot. According to Eggebrecht, the only reason Factor 5 has stopped making GameCube games was that they've abandoned current-generation hardware altogether. "It is simply because we have moved into next-generation development," he said. As for which future console Factor 5 was creating games for, Eggebrecht was unspecific, saying only "there might be a surprise [announcement] coming from us." By Tor Thorsen -- GameSpot POSTED: 04/14/04 06:46PM PST Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
figgler #2 Posted April 17, 2004 "It is simply because we have moved into next-generation development," I think this is key. Before the release of Rebel Strike I remeber reading an article in EGM or some rag, where Factor 5 had talked about an ambitious online Rogue Squadron game. At the time it was insinuated that it would be for the GCNext. I certainly hope this is the plan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liveinabin #3 Posted April 17, 2004 Yeah, there's no point starting development on any major title for the current gen machines now. They'll be dead before it's finished - especially when you're as well connected as Factor 5. Remember this is the company that had unrivalled access to the GC hardware in development, second only to Nintendo themselves. I believe Factor 5 are already down for the PSP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holy_fluck #4 Posted April 19, 2004 When will Factor 5 make another Turrican game, I've been waiting since Super Turrican 2. Turrican on the systems now would freaking rock! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepnut24 #5 Posted April 19, 2004 Doesn't the GC need all the help it can get though? I mean there is a full year left to the current generation. At least through the holiday season. Especially when you look at the competition. This can't be a good thing for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian M #6 Posted April 19, 2004 Doesn't the GC need all the help it can get though? I mean there is a full year left to the current generation. At least through the holiday season. Especially when you look at the competition. This can't be a good thing for them. Precisely my point as well...kind of why I even posted this to begin with. 3rd party support hasn't been Nintendo's strong suit since the days of the N64. The more exclusive developers they lose in this generation only makes it more difficult (and unattractive) for other interested 3rd parties to develop for future Nintendo home platforms. Nintendo has already lost Rare, and now exclusivities with the other 2 developers that have recently jumped ship. 3rd party support won't just magically appear on the next Nintendo home system, so I wish them well! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy Cleopatra #7 Posted April 20, 2004 Maybe Nintendo should go the way way of Sega.... without the still making of games Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liveinabin #8 Posted April 20, 2004 But what's not being understood here is the time it takes to develop a game. There really is no point starting a major project on any of the big three right now, irrelevant of their market standing. You simply would not get it finished in the life of the system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian M #9 Posted April 20, 2004 Maybe Nintendo should go the way way of Sega.... without the still making of games LOL! I like that suggestion! Now where's our friend NintendoDieScreaming when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepnut24 #10 Posted April 20, 2004 But what's not being understood here is the time it takes to develop a game. There really is no point starting a major project on any of the big three right now, irrelevant of their market standing. You simply would not get it finished in the life of the system. Thats not true at all really. Well for sequels at least. Look at splitner cell pandora tommorow. Less than a year of dev time in it and its a best seller. Yes for a completely new title there wouldn't be enough time, but for sequels there is plenty of time to bring more out before the conosle dies. Maybe the GC is going the way of the DODO sooner than we know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VidGameKing #11 Posted April 20, 2004 I dont think nintendo is all that bad. I own a game cube, and two games for it. I always welcome new hardware! thats why I cried so hard when sega left. I hope nintendo doesn't pull out. I'd hate to loose out on those new systems they are developing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
figgler #12 Posted April 20, 2004 But what's not being understood here is the time it takes to develop a game. There really is no point starting a major project on any of the big three right now, irrelevant of their market standing. You simply would not get it finished in the life of the system. Thats not true at all really. Well for sequels at least. Look at splitner cell pandora tommorow. Less than a year of dev time in it and its a best seller. Yes for a completely new title there wouldn't be enough time, but for sequels there is plenty of time to bring more out before the conosle dies. Maybe the GC is going the way of the DODO sooner than we know? True, they could probably get it done if it's a sequel and that's only assuming that it uses the same basic elements or engine. Pandora Tomorrwo is really not far removed from the original at all. In any case if they did happen to get it out before the system died, everyone would be looking forward by that time and no one would care. Just like Perfect Dark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liveinabin #13 Posted April 20, 2004 But what's not being understood here is the time it takes to develop a game. There really is no point starting a major project on any of the big three right now, irrelevant of their market standing. You simply would not get it finished in the life of the system. Thats not true at all really. Well for sequels at least. Look at splitner cell pandora tommorow. Less than a year of dev time in it and its a best seller. Yes for a completely new title there wouldn't be enough time, but for sequels there is plenty of time to bring more out before the conosle dies. Maybe the GC is going the way of the DODO sooner than we know? Well, for sequels that are just going to use the same game engine, yeah. But that's not really a major project. You're looking at 18 months + for a AAA title now. Also, it's worth remembering just how much money there is in gaming at the moment. There are loads more people playing video games these days, the user base for even the Gamecube and Xbox is WAY more than, say, the Genesis or the Intellivisions was. There is room for a third player. On the other hand, maybe Factor 5 are just pissed and broke because their last game bombed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paralistalon #14 Posted April 20, 2004 And I care? Like liveinabiin said, I'm sick of Factor 5's "milk the Star Wars franchise to death" games. Also, Rare is losing their touch. The only game developers I care about on the Cube are Capcom and Sega. (Capcom is going to pwn my wallet with Megaman Anniversary Collection, Resident Evil 4, and Killer 7.) And I guess Namco's technicaly a member of the "Nintendo Best Friends" too, but they haven't delivered the system-exclusive goods in a while. Let's hope Star Fox Armada revives them in my eyes. I thought Nintendo made the GameCube more developer friendly. I guess Sony has the user base, and Microsoft has the money. AT LEAST we got Square back... although Crystal Chronicles wasn't exactly what I was hoping for... BTW, the next wave of "The Nintendo 3" are coming this year: Metroid, Zelda, and Mario. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian M #15 Posted April 20, 2004 BTW, the next wave of "The Nintendo 3" are coming this year: Metroid, Zelda, and Mario. Oh joy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VidGameKing #17 Posted April 20, 2004 yeah more mario.... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... I sortta feel all marioed and zeldaed out... don't the rest of you feel that way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian M #18 Posted April 20, 2004 yeah more mario.... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... I sortta feel all marioed and zeldaed out... don't the rest of you feel that way? Kinda felt that way since I played the N64 incarnations back in the day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paralistalon #19 Posted April 20, 2004 I am kind of sick of the SAME FREAKING NINTENDO CHARACTERS over and over in all my games, like Mario Golf and Mario Tenis and Mario Kart... I do agree with you on that. However, there has only been ONE actual Mario game released on the Cube so far, and only ONE Zelda game, which was a pretty revolutionary one too. But I'm also sick of Nintendo trying to sell me Mario Bros. 1 again for $30. GEEZ GIVE YOUR OLD GAMES A BREAK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VidGameKing #20 Posted April 20, 2004 well the N64 incarnations weren't all that bad. per-say. but now they are just beating the dead horse! really! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian M #21 Posted April 20, 2004 But I'm also sick of Nintendo trying to sell me Mario Bros. 1 again for $30. GEEZ GIVE YOUR OLD GAMES A BREAK! Amen!!! Finally, someone who has the balls to speak up on a matter that I've felt very strongly about. They've milked the whole Pokemon phenomenon to death, and now they're whoring out and desecrating their most sacred of franchises! Die Nintendo with your overpriced rehashes! Die already!! May you go the way of Sega!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VidGameKing #22 Posted April 21, 2004 May you go the way of Sega!! Yeah But still make hardware!!! Yeah!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
figgler #23 Posted April 21, 2004 But I'm also sick of Nintendo trying to sell me Mario Bros. 1 again for $30. GEEZ GIVE YOUR OLD GAMES A BREAK! Oh come on! I would think that everyone on Atariage would at least appreciate the nostalgia and collectibility factor. Amen!!! Finally, someone who has the balls to speak up on a matter that I've felt very strongly about. They've milked the whole Pokemon phenomenon to death, and now they're whoring out and desecrating their most sacred of franchises! Giving fans what they want is what it's all about. Sure there have been lots of Pokemon games, Metroid games and Zelda games in a reletively short time period, but they are ALL top notch quality gameplay and are well received by players. It doesn't count as milking or whoring until the games start to suck ass. Like Sonic did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shep #24 Posted April 21, 2004 yeah more mario.... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... and mario... and zelda... I sortta feel all marioed and zeldaed out... don't the rest of you feel that way? No because I play other great Nintendo titles like....um....hmmm...theres Metroid...then theres um.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VidGameKing #25 Posted April 21, 2004 sonic spinball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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