Neo Fami system

[Draikar]

Anyone have a Neo Fami system ?

Im thinking of getting the red and white one but I don't know...

Is it just a cheap pirate clone of Famicom ?

[dma]

No it's a Japanese product, not a HK pirate one.

 

http://gametech.co.jp/products/catalog/222...226/2226_1.html

http://gametech.co.jp/products/catalog/222...226/2227_1.html

[JB]

No it's a Japanese product, not a HK pirate one.

 

http://gametech.co.jp/products/catalog/222...226/2226_1.htmlhttp://gametech.co.jp/products/catalog/2226/2227_1.html

 

So it's a cheap japanese pirate.

[Gamemaster_ca_2003]

man a NES in an AES Shell with SNES Controlers using atari controler plugs.

[ApolloBoy]

It does look really cool for a Famiclone, though!

[dma]

So it's a cheap japanese pirate.

If it's a Japanese product, it has to be agreed by Nintendo.

And i doubt Nintendo would agree with the release of a "cheap" clone.

[dma]

By the way, I mean "cheap" it terms of quality, not in terms of price.

[Bratwurst]

So it's a cheap japanese pirate.

If it's a Japanese product, it has to be agreed by Nintendo.

And i doubt Nintendo would agree with the release of a "cheap" clone.

 

It isn't licensed by Nintendo but I've read that it's fairly well made despite the fact. It's not some fly by night Hong Kong company cranking them out. I kinda want one, myself.

[Great Hierophant]

What is so special about it? It has all the standard pirate console features, cheap plastic, 9-pin controller ports, turbo buttons on the controllers. It will sound like crap and likely display graphical glitches. It has no expansion port, so some games will not play.

[ApolloBoy]

It has no expansion port, so some games will not play.

 

Did you even look at it? It has a cart port.

[Great Hierophant]

Did you even look at it? It has a cart port.

 

Yes, I did look at it and translated the description of it with Babelfish. No expansion port means no light gun games, no power pad games, no four player games, no games that use the keyboard and other games that require exotic peripherals. Getting a title screen and playing a game are two different things.

[JB]

Did you even look at it? It has a cart port.

 

Yes, I did look at it and translated the description of it with Babelfish. No expansion port means no light gun games, no power pad games, no four player games, no games that use the keyboard and other games that require exotic peripherals. Getting a title screen and playing a game are two different things.

I thought the bootlegs ran a lot of those expansion pins out to the controller ports.

 

I know several famiclones come with a lightgun.

[Great Hierophant]

I forgot about that. However, a light gun for another pirate console will only work with this pirate console if the pinouts are the same. The 9-pin socket is standard but the NES does not read joysticks in the same way as the systems that use the 9-pin socket.

[JB]

I forgot about that.  However, a light gun for another pirate console will only work with this pirate console if the pinouts are the same.  The 9-pin socket is standard but the NES does not read joysticks in the same way as the systems that use the 9-pin socket.

I assumed that there was some sort of standard famiclone pinout for some reason.

 

Anyways, some famiclones run the pins for at least the lightgun pins.

 

...

 

Are famiclone pads similar to NES pads in function? Serial-encoded, I mean.

[Flojomojo]

I believe there are adapters for that sort of thing -- or you could always make your own. The 9-pin connector isn't exactly rare, after all.

[christianscott27]

i'm leaning towards it just being a shell variation on the sorta crap we've seen many times before. i was at a flea this weekend and had a chance to check on out. it felt cheap, looked cheap but was priced at $60. i just cant see it, looks arent everything. in fact this flea mart was crawling with everytype of fami-clone you can imagine. there was an entire booth area devoted to em, including some odd dedicated controllers for soccer and baseball. the best thing was the funky multicart the guy had. it was the standard width but only 3cm high, like a pack of gum. it had a little mario 64 style mario on it, the guy wanted $15...no wait for you $10 but i passed.

[Flojomojo]

I wish we had flea markets like that near me. I saw the Yobo version at Starland for over $50 and was intrigued ... a quick Froogle search from my phone showed that their web store was selling them for $29.99.

 

I'm sooooo tempted, but I'm not sure why. It's not like I have a lot of games for the NES or FC. I just bought a 2nd Dreamcast and have a VGA cable on order, so I'm totally covered as far as games are concerned -- for me, NESter is BETTER than the real hardware.

[Stingray]

the best thing was the funky multicart the guy had. it was the standard width but only 3cm high, like a pack of gum. it had a little mario 64 style mario on it, the guy wanted $15...no wait for you $10 but i passed.

 

I would have bought that.

 

-S

[Great Hierophant]

If you really want to see how cheap a Neo Famiclone is, check these pics out:

http://benheck.com/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/vie...t=1536&start=30

Here is a company selling a replacement board that looks the same as the Neo-Fami's

http://gamebank-web.com/ec/store.asp?code_...e_syosai=431634

 

the best thing was the funky multicart the guy had. it was the standard width but only 3cm high, like a pack of gum. it had a little mario 64 style mario on it, the guy wanted $15...no wait for you $10 but i passed.

 

I have seen those things in the malls. They are half the standard height of a Famicom cartridge, and the glop tops on the boards are especially small. They fail very easily, so I observed from the number of disgruntled people returning their Famiclones to find out that the cartridge didn't work.

[Great Hierophant]

i'm leaning towards it just being a shell variation on the sorta crap we've seen many times before. i was at a flea this weekend and had a chance to check on out. it felt cheap, looked cheap but was priced at $60. i just cant see it, looks arent everything. in fact this flea mart was crawling with everytype of fami-clone you can imagine. there was an entire booth area devoted to em, including some odd dedicated controllers for soccer and baseball.

 

Incidentally, does your Famiclone's guts look anything like what I posted? As it actually resembles a standard Nintendo Famicom perhaps it may have discrete chips (or blobs). Ah, the glorious days before the dreaded Nintendo on a Chip.

[+FujiSkunk]

I forgot about that.  However, a light gun for another pirate console will only work with this pirate console if the pinouts are the same.  The 9-pin socket is standard but the NES does not read joysticks in the same way as the systems that use the 9-pin socket.

 

Out of curiousity, is it really pirate hardware if it's just a reverse-engineered console without any games included? Was the Coleco Gemini a pirate console?

[Stingray]

 

Out of curiousity, is it really pirate hardware if it's just a reverse-engineered console without any games included?  Was the Coleco Gemini a pirate console?

 

I don't think there are any proprietary parts on a 2600, so that would make a Gemini and any other 2600 clone totally legal. At least that's the way I understand it.

 

I do think the NES uses some proprietary parts, so I belive that you would need to license it from big N in order to sell clones.

 

-S

[Great Hierophant]

The Atari's 2600 TIA chip is a proprietary chip but the other two (6507 and RIOT) are off the shelf parts. The NES has two proprietary chips, the 2A03 and the 2C02. Only the audio portion of the 2A03 is proprietary, not the 6052 CPU core. The 2C02 PPU is fully a Nintendo proprietary part.

 

There are two ways proprietary chips can be protected, through trade secret law and through patent law. Trade secret law would only protect against another company stealing the internal schematic of a chip and using it to produce their own. If the competitor took the chip and reversed engineered it or made a chip that duplicates the functions in using clean room procedures, the chip maker can do nothing. Patent law would protect against knock-off products and clones, regardless of how they were reproduced. Just because you have a patent is no guarantee of victory in a court of law. Companies may not patent their chips because it would give them away to everbody else.

[chrisbid]

 

Out of curiousity, is it really pirate hardware if it's just a reverse-engineered console without any games included?  Was the Coleco Gemini a pirate console?

 

I don't think there are any proprietary parts on a 2600, so that would make a Gemini and any other 2600 clone totally legal. At least that's the way I understand it.

 

I do think the NES uses some proprietary parts, so I belive that you would need to license it from big N in order to sell clones.

 

-S

 

the NES was reverse engineered years ago and reconfigured into an all in one chip. this chip is the same chip that runs most of the Jakk's TV Games. As long as there are no pirated games being sold with the system, the hardware is perfectly legal.

[Famicoman]

I think I've seen those before. The dude wanted 50 bucks for it though.