Stupid Next-Gen gamers

[figgler]

Yet more evidence that gamer's attitudes are changing, and not for the better. Check out this excerpt from a letter someone sent in to IGN's N-query (Nintendo mailbag). Nintendo and the game he references are irrelevant, it's the attitude that disturbs me...

 

Four Swords is not an 8.7. If anything, it shouldn't be any higher than 7.0. Its a 2-D game which shouts laziness, and no matter how fun it is, its can never be more than what the other games have been. You gave it a higher score than most GBA games, which are designed to be 2-D. Any GC game which isn't 3-D, belongs on the GBA, otherwise, its a steaming pile of crap. Nintendo needs to get a hold of themselves, and you need to get someone who isn't a Zelda fanboy to review Zelda games.

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[Adrian M]

Nintendo needs to get a hold of themselves' date=' and you need to get someone who isn't a Zelda fanboy to review Zelda games. [/quote']

 

I agree with the above statement...

[Vic George 2K3]

Any GC game which isn't 3-D, belongs on the GBA, otherwise, its a steaming pile of crap.

 

I think 2D games belong on any system that's capable of doing them, not just systems that are tailor-made for 2D games only.

[chrisbid]

so which is it?

 

is sony responsible for putting that mentality into the minds of the ignorant masses, or do they simply recognize the demands of the market?

 

its probably a little of both, but face it, kids have always been dumb, its what makes them kids

[Avid Fan]

ugh, I bet the guy who wrote that is some 14 year old angry fanboy. System fanboys piss me off

[liveinabin]

yeah, I bet he is.

Still, I won't defend a game just because it's 2D. Call me old fashioned, but the only thing that'll make me like a game is if it's GOOD.

[Saturnalia]

Little jackass. Graphics don't matter in a game as much as gameplay, storyline, and characters. Besides 2D games tend to be a lot better than 3D.

[shep]

What I have seen of the game the 2D effects look great. Its not out yet is it? How can this child judge it?

[MegaManFan]

Even if his line of logic was complete tripe, at least it was intelligently written using correct grammar and puncuation. Most similar letters to a website wouldn't be.

[liveinabin]

Little jackass. Graphics don't matter in a game as much as gameplay' date=' storyline, and characters. Besides 2D games tend to be a lot better than 3D.[/quote']

 

 

I totally agree with the first part, but I think there are just as many great 3D games as 2D. Just liking 2D is a limitation in itself, an not a million miles away from what these '3D only' kids are doing

[dinovelvet]

Somewhere along the line, graphics became more important to today's gamers than actual gameplay. For example, the new XBox game Riddick is getting a lot of buzz for its supposedly great graphics, but the game itself is just an uninspiring, generic first person shooter, with the usual grey corridors and finding switches to open doors, etc.

[Adrian M]

Somewhere along the line' date=' graphics became more important to today's gamers than actual gameplay. For example, the new XBox game Riddick is getting a lot of buzz for its supposedly great graphics, but the game itself is just an uninspiring, generic first person shooter, with the usual grey corridors and finding switches to open doors, etc.[/quote']

 

Have you played it? It's actually quite good...graphics and all.

[figgler]

Somewhere along the line' date=' graphics became more important to today's gamers than actual gameplay.[/quote'] By and large we can all thank PlayStation 1 for this unfortunate trend

[MegaManFan]

Which is odd when you consider the PS1 has a lot of classic compilations of old school video games, 2D shooters, and platformer games (Crash Bandicoot especially).

[Adrian M]

Somewhere along the line' date=' graphics became more important to today's gamers than actual gameplay.[/quote'] By and large we can all thank PlayStation 1 for this unfortunate trend

 

[Saturnalia]

Little jackass. Graphics don't matter in a game as much as gameplay' date=' storyline' date=' and characters. Besides 2D games tend to be a lot better than 3D.[/quote'']

 

 

I totally agree with the first part, but I think there are just as many great 3D games as 2D. Just liking 2D is a limitation in itself, an not a million miles away from what these '3D only' kids are doing

 

I ment in 2D RPGs. FF6, Wild Arms, Chrono Trigger. All some of the best.

[HawgWyld]

By and large we can all thank PlayStation 1 for this unfortunate trend

 

Well, I'm not sure I'd agree there. The PS1 had some absolutely fantastic games. Sure, they happened to be 3D and beautiful, but they were well-designed, to boot (i.e. Final Fantasy VII, Crash Team Racing (a crowd pleaser, to be sure), the Spyro and Crash Bandicoot games, a slew of RPGs, sports titles rendered in honest-to-goodness 3D and etc.)

 

The problems these days, I think, is that there are a few formulas that have worked well in the past, and they get repeated over and over and over and over ... and over ... again. Seems like there was more raw innovation in the eight, 16 and 32-bit days, but I could be wrong.

[Rocko]

That is stupid...

[figgler]

By and large we can all thank PlayStation 1 for this unfortunate trend

 

Well' date=' I'm not sure I'd agree there. The PS1 had some absolutely fantastic games. Sure, they happened to be 3D and beautiful, but they were well-designed, to boot (i.e. Final Fantasy VII, Crash Team Racing (a crowd pleaser, to be sure), the Spyro and Crash Bandicoot games, a slew of RPGs, sports titles rendered in honest-to-goodness 3D and etc.)[/quote']

 

Oh don't get me wrong, I'll give PS1 the props it deserves for all the great games it cranked out. While the geniuses at Sony realized that people like pretty colours and cool images, they forgot that really this is what matters the least in any great game (2600 Centipede? Hello!). But, graphics sell games (in the short term), and Sony has always put a far too heavy emphasis on it to peddle vids. Unfortunately, the up and coming generation of gamers has been brainwashed into this way of thinking, simply because of the market penetration of PS1.

[Fretwobbler]

Besides 2D games tend to be a lot better than 3D.

 

Huh? How can all games be classified so simply?

 

I'd like to see a 2d version of Homeworld play out better than the 3D version.

 

Magic Carpet....that would have been a hoot in 2D.

 

2D Monster Maze!!! Yeah!

[HawgWyld]

Oh don't get me wrong' date=' I'll give PS1 the props it deserves for all the great games it cranked out. While the geniuses at Sony realized that people like pretty colours and cool images, they forgot that really this is what matters the least in any great game (2600 Centipede? Hello!). But, graphics sell games (in the short term), and Sony has always put a far too heavy emphasis on it to peddle vids. Unfortunately, the up and coming generation of gamers has been brainwashed into this way of thinking, simply because of the market penetration of PS1.[/quote']

 

I'd tend to agree with that, but I don't know if that's a "Sony" thing, per se. Seems there was a lot of talk after the xbox and GameCube were released over which one pushed more polygons, whether or not individual blades of grass waved in football games and etc. I'd say Microsoft and Nintendo jumped right in there on the "graphics bandwagon," but was that consumer-driven or company-driven?

 

And, let's not forget the "controversial" cel shading in "Zelda: Wind Waker." To hear some people tell it, the graphics did matter more in that instance. Also, we've heard all about the "cruddy" graphics of the PS2 when compared with the other consoles and etc. Interesting stuff.

[liveinabin]

Somewhere along the line' date=' graphics became more important to today's gamers than actual gameplay.[/quote'] By and large we can all thank PlayStation 1 for this unfortunate trend

 

I remember all those generic Mario-wanabee platform games of the 16 bit era with their lovely colourful bitmap graphics and total lack of innovation or gameplay. Graphics over content is a much older problem than the PS1.

[liveinabin]

2D Monster Maze!!! Yeah!

 

I think we might be the only two people here who get that reference

[Jasoco]

The little kid is a dumbass troll who doesn't "Get" the thole idea of the game. Did IGN have anything to say about his email? I mean, seems pretty stupid for them to post his message.

[cryptik76]

Although I don't think Four Swords is crap because it's 2D, I do think it's lazy for Nintendo to release almost an exact port of a game which came out over a year ago (on the GBA, no less) on a more powerful system without changing much of anything.

 

But anyway, many gamers strike me as being bafflingly low-IQ, especially the younger ones. I loved video games when I was a child, but my parents made sure I, you know, learned things, so I can actually talk and write like an intelligent person instead of some Forrest Gump with ADHD.