a_gurno Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 I know "Man Goes Down" is the current selection for the title, but if you're not crazy about the innuendo in that, what about "The Descent of Man"? What? Not "The Fall Guy"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie3 Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 I can't stop playing this game!! Nice work!! Excellent graphics and gameplay. Very addicitive. This is very impressive and I can't wait to see the finished product. Are you looking for suggestions at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex H Posted November 15, 2004 Author Share Posted November 15, 2004 with so much progress and the front page news story, is there any chance this gets released before the first of the year? Hope so! NEVER... rush... a... developer Sometimes this developer needs a good kick in the posterior to get things done. I know "Man Goes Down" is the current selection for the title, but if you're not crazy about the innuendo in that... Bah, nothing wrong with the title. The Vec version was called Spike Goes Down, but this time it's not Spike - it's just some dude. Maybe I should give him a name. How about BJ? Are you looking for suggestions at all? I've made some improvements based on earlier suggestions, so feel free. Having said that though, I'm quite far in now and have everything pretty much planned out, so it'd have to be a damn good suggestion if it requires big changes. I'm attaching a new binary 'cos the last one had bad EEPROM driver code. The footstep sounds have been improved slightly in this version but otherwise there's not much new to see. (Well, there is new stuff in there but you're not allowed that yet!) Alex mgd_151104.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_gurno Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 New high for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisrael Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 I know "Man Goes Down" is the current selection for the title, but if you're not crazy about the innuendo in that... Bah, nothing wrong with the title. The Vec version was called Spike Goes Down, but this time it's not Spike - it's just some dude. Maybe I should give him a name. How about BJ? "The Fall Guy" wasn't too bad either...I just think that "Man Goes Down" sounds innuendoish in a way "Spike Goes Down" doesn't...it kind of overwhelms the main concept I think. But, obviously it's your game, if you think it's important to give a nod to the game's roots, then go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moderntimes99 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I've made some improvements based on earlier suggestions, so feel free. Having said that though, I'm quite far in now and have everything pretty much planned out, so it'd have to be a damn good suggestion if it requires big changes. I have played the demo and like it very much indeed. However, I think a simultaneous two player would make it even better! (If it can't be done without flickering that wouldn't matter too much...) Some music, on the title screen, maybe? Or even in the game? Best regards, Moderntimes99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisrael Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I have played the demo and like it very much indeed. However, I think a simultaneous two player would make it even better! (If it can't be done without flickering that wouldn't matter too much...) Be sure to check out Fall Down: http://www.atariage.com/development_page.h...evelopmentID=78 It has a similar gameplay mechanic, but an emphasis on head to head play rather than slickly getting around. In some ways it's less polished (I especially love Miller Genuine Draft's...err, Man Goes Down's...running animation, but I love a good head to head game...and Fall Down even has some good AI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Mitchell Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I like the name "Man Goes Down". Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 So is that supposed to be a burp after he eats anything? If so, I think it should vary as you transition from getting the last fruit to getting the special item. Also the voice doesn't annunciate v's very well, they all sound like f's. It sounds like it is saying "AtariFox, and Game Ofer" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard H. Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Also the voice doesn't annunciate v's very well, they all sound like f's It sounds OK to me, although with most allophonic speech, your ears have to get used to it a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 It sounds OK to me, although with most allophonic speech, your ears have to get used to it a bit. I am not saying it sounds bad or anything (it actually sounds damn good for one chip) I still like it and can't wait for more games to try out. Or maybe even like a soundboard game that uses the keyboards to say different words I need something else than these same 5 phrases on mgd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard H. Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 need something else than these same 5 phrases on mgd If you hang on, I'm making the AtariVox version of this - www.vectrex.biz/VecVox_PC.JPG It allows you to connect it to a PC's serial port, and then use this AtariVox friendly version of the SpeakJet util software - www.vectrex.biz/PhraseALator.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Hi there! ...I just think that "Man Goes Down" sounds innuendoish... To me it sounds rather emancipated Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 need something else than these same 5 phrases on mgd If you hang on, I'm making the AtariVox version of this - www.vectrex.biz/VecVox_PC.JPG It allows you to connect it to a PC's serial port, and then use this AtariVox friendly version of the SpeakJet util software - www.vectrex.biz/PhraseALator.zip Wow, sounds really great. I had no idea anything like that even existed for the vecvox. I should also point out that I don't own any vectrex hardware as of yet, so all of this voice stuff is new to me. Thanks for sharing what you are working on, and now I will sit here patiently and try not to piss anyone else off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisrael Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Hi there!...I just think that "Man Goes Down" sounds innuendoish... To me it sounds rather emancipated Hey, I'm no prude or puritan or anything remotely like that. I just think it's false advertising! I would think it was more like "beat 'em and eat 'em" with a name like that. It's more my bias against irrelevant (possibly semi-accidental) puns. I love a good pun, but this one only works on one level that has nothing to do with the actual gameplay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I just got the "bubble" powerup (not sure what it does) but the game crashed as soon as I touched it. (I was the using the helicopter powerup at the time.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moderntimes99 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I have played the demo and like it very much indeed. However, I think a simultaneous two player would make it even better! (If it can't be done without flickering that wouldn't matter too much...) Be sure to check out Fall Down: http://www.atariage.com/development_page.h...evelopmentID=78 It has a similar gameplay mechanic, but an emphasis on head to head play rather than slickly getting around. In some ways it's less polished (I especially love Miller Genuine Draft's...err, Man Goes Down's...running animation, but I love a good head to head game...and Fall Down even has some good AI. I have tried Fall Down now, and I actually think that I prefer "Man Goes Down", not only because of the more polished graphics but because the smaller platforms, in my opinion, lead to a more interesting game play. Therefore I'd love to see a two player mode in "Man Goes Down". (I'd still prefer to have the single player mode remain as is, though, i.e. no AI computer controlled player in single player mode...). Maybe there could be two settings, in "easy" mode the two players could be able two walk through each other, whereas in "hard" mode they could block each other... A bad idea? Hard (or impossible) to implement? Best regards, Moderntimes99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 One suggestion: Add some cool 'MGD' music!! Thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Mitchell Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 One suggestion: Add some cool 'MGD' music!! I want a MGD T-shirt! Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex H Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 So is that supposed to be a burp after he eats anything?If so, I think it should vary as you transition from getting the last fruit to getting the special item. Yes, that is a burp. The little speech that's in there so far is just for testing. I'll expand the speech and level data to fill whatever ROM space is left, so that's why I'm leaving it till last. Or maybe even like a soundboard game that uses the keyboards to say different words I need something else than these same 5 phrases on mgd You might want to grab the latest version of my AtariVox driver. Included is a little program vox_test.bin that plays speech triggered by the joystick. The source code is also included so you can edit and play with the speech. Hey, I'm no prude or puritan or anything remotely like that. I just think it's false advertising! I would think it was more like "beat 'em and eat 'em" with a name like that. So what sort of game would you expect "The Descent of Man" to be? Would "The Fall Guy" be false advertising, because he don't look much like Lee Majors to me? It's more my bias against irrelevant (possibly semi-accidental) puns. I love a good pun, but this one only works on one level that has nothing to do with the actual gameplay... How is "Man Goes Down" any less relevant to the gameplay? I understand why you're not so keen on the title and it's not that I thought "The Descent of Man" and "The Fall Guy" were bad suggestions - they're just not the title of my game. It's Man Goes Down to me and anyone else who's seen it, and I'm not about to change it just becuase some prude can't handle it! Try thinking of mangoes instead - perhaps that will help. (Hey, I'm just joking, incase that wasn't obvious.) I especially love Miller Genuine Draft's...err, Man Goes Down's...running animation Ah, now I get the MGD reference made in the AtariVox thread. (I am not familiar with said beverage.) I just got the "bubble" powerup (not sure what it does) but the game crashed as soon as I touched it. (I was the using the helicopter powerup at the time.) Oops! I missed the "branch out of range" error when I assembled that. The CPU leaps for the bubble code, misses and plummets to it's death! I'll post a working version shortly. I have tried Fall Down now, and I actually think that I prefer "Man Goes Down", not only because of the more polished graphics but because the smaller platforms, in my opinion, lead to a more interesting game play. Therefore I'd love to see a two player mode in "Man Goes Down". (I'd still prefer to have the single player mode remain as is, though, i.e. no AI computer controlled player in single player mode...). Maybe there could be two settings, in "easy" mode the two players could be able two walk through each other, whereas in "hard" mode they could block each other... A bad idea? Hard (or impossible) to implement? No, not a bad idea, but very hard to do now. Shortage of RAM for the 2nd player's variables is a problem. Besides, the AtariVox plugs in port 2. I think the format of Fall Down works better for 2 players anyway - the play area is wider and I like the way it's more of a race rather than just trying not to fall off the screen. One suggestion: Add some cool 'MGD' music!! If I have room for it and if I can come up with anything which sounds vaguely musical. The 2600 isn't exactly a natural when it comes to music, and I don't want to compromise other parts of the game just for the sake of fitting it in. I'm attaching a binary that has a tiny little segment of music. The data's fairly compact so maybe I could expand on it, but I'm not really sure it's the right style for MGD. Alex wscroll.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Mitchell Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I especially love Miller Genuine Draft's...err, Man Goes Down's...running animation Ah, now I get the MGD reference made in the AtariVox thread. (I am not familiar with said beverage.) Very cheap beer! Drink in a pinch! Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Cool demo, Alex! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Hi there! Cool demo, Alex! Uihjah... why is the scrolling looking so smooth? Just because it is so fast? Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Uihjah... why is the scrolling looking so smooth? Just because it is so fast? Yup, you can fool the eye quite easily. That's also the reason why the scrolling looks so smooth in Thrust, though it is really blocky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Mitchell Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Nice light reflecting on the water effect! Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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