irata_99 Posted February 12, 2002 Share Posted February 12, 2002 Hello, I´m a newbie on the 7800 and I am a bit curious about pal and ntsc carts. Do I get problems when playing a ntsc cart on a pal system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liveinabin Posted February 12, 2002 Share Posted February 12, 2002 I'm a 7800 newbie too, but apparently not - while you can get away with NTSC 2600 games (albeit in wonky colours), 7800's are a completely different kettle of fish and NTSC games won't work at all. So we're stuck with PAL, which aint so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted February 12, 2002 Share Posted February 12, 2002 I have a PAL Atari 7800 and most of my games are PAL. But I have one game Tower Toppler as NTSC. The titlescreen look good, and I can play, but I can't see anything. The graphic has so many errors and look so bad that you not see where you are. I have later found this game as PAL version and this work great. So I think some (or most) NTSC games won't work on a PAL console. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted February 13, 2002 Share Posted February 13, 2002 Depends what you mean by "not work". Some refuse full stop (Robotron, Winter Games), some have huge graphical glitches (Ninja Golf, Touchdown Football) and some have minor graphics stuff-ups and are still playable (Ms Pacman, Water Ski). Generally I have the PAL version unless it isn't available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irata_99 Posted February 13, 2002 Author Share Posted February 13, 2002 Well, thank you all. So I will look for pal versions... Anyway is there a difference in boxing, labels or game number to find out wheter a game is for ntsc or for pal. When I look at ebay auctions it´s often not clear which format the carts are and sellers of the games can´t tell or test it so it would be great if there was anything I could ask to not spend money for a random character screen generator. What about ntsc-units in europe with 220V-adapters. Is this a good solution or does it require anything special (RGB-outpt, special TV,..)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizoc Posted February 13, 2002 Share Posted February 13, 2002 quote: Originally posted by irata_99: Anyway is there a difference in boxing, labels or game number to find out wheter a game is for ntsc or for pal. One way to tell is by looking at the cart. 7800 PAL carts have a sticker on the underside with a "P". It is a small black sticker with the white letter. On ebay it is probably a good idea to see where the seller is. If you are buying 7800 carts from US sellers, there is a very strong chance that the game is NTSC. On the other hand, if you are buying from a seller in Australia, it is most likely PAL. Keep in mind that there are a few games that are available in NTSC only. (Robotron, Water Ski, etc). Other than testing, I am not aware of a sure way to tell. As far as I know, there are no label or box variations for PAL or NTSC games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fretwobbler Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 quoteTizoc - Keep in mind that there are a few games that are available in NTSC only. (Robotron, Water Ski, etc). Ive heard from a big UK collector that Robotron is available in PAL. He said he got it from a guy in Germany. It could have been the NTSC version but the cart worked for him without problems on his PAL machine. I asked the question does it really exist on PAL before on this board and Mitch, the 7800 guy said that he had been told it had but up until now had not seen any hard evidence. I live in hope...... Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+rdemming Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 I've NTSC Centipede and it works on my PAL 7800. There are only some random pixels in the bottom of the screen and the playfield is at the top of the screen. This because PAL displays more lines than NTSC. Can someone make a list a NTSC games stating if they work or not work on PAL? If someone sends me all NTSC games, I will make the list Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 Well here's a start for you... based on my NTSC encounters so far: Ninja Golf - yes but graphics totally useless Touchdown Football - as above Midnight Mutants - crashes immediately Summer/Winter Games - crashes immediately Robotron - crashes on title screen Ms Pacman - glitches at bottom, works Water Ski - graphics wrap slightly but playable The Hi-Score cart from Curt Wendel doesn't work at all sadly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 Tower Toppler - playable, but graphic totally useless in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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