eggplant_casserole #1 Posted August 16, 2004 I was having a discussion with some friends on Japanese Jaguars. Some believed the system was never released over there, others proved that Toys 'r' Us were to stock it in all stores there. Some said they have seen Jaguars there, but assumed them to be imports. What is the real answer? Were systems exported from the US to Japan, or did they have their own systems? What did the boxes look like? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveW #2 Posted August 16, 2004 Yes, the Jaguar was sold in Japan. It really didn't sell too well, though. I remember that Aliens vs. Predator was one of the pack-in games. Since Japan and the US both use NTSC televisions, i'd wager a guess that they were pretty much the same consoles, but in Japanese boxes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysmith2000 #3 Posted August 16, 2004 I was having a discussion with some friends on Japanese Jaguars. Some believed the system was never released over there, others proved that Toys 'r' Us were to stock it in all stores there. Some said they have seen Jaguars there, but assumed them to be imports. What is the real answer? Were systems exported from the US to Japan, or did they have their own systems? What did the boxes look like? I have pics of the Japanese Jaguar along with AvP pack-in and Japanese manuals on my website. http://members.cox.net/jmsmith8/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eggplant_casserole #4 Posted August 16, 2004 Wow, great site you have there! Thanks for that. Slightly worried to see the ROMs sitting on the carpet for the photo though! And what is that white cloth you had them sitting on? Doesn't look very ESD friendly! Still, a really nice collection Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter_J64bit #5 Posted August 16, 2004 I have a copy of Japanese DOOM! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter_J64bit #6 Posted August 16, 2004 I have a copy of Japanese DOOM! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysmith2000 #7 Posted August 17, 2004 Wow, great site you have there! Thanks for that. Slightly worried to see the ROMs sitting on the carpet for the photo though! And what is that white cloth you had them sitting on? Doesn't look very ESD friendly! Still, a really nice collection I guess I need to look at my pics again. If memory serves I had them on my bedspread. Don't worry they're all fine and in a special case now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaztee #8 Posted August 17, 2004 Hi Guys I am sure I read somewhere, or heard that about 15000 Jags were sold in Japan! A real big dent in that market then! Gaztee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eggplant_casserole #9 Posted August 17, 2004 In December 1994, Atari announced that the Jaguar would be sold through all 25 TOYS "R" US Inc. stores in Japan plus other outlets selected by its distributor and sales representative, MUMIN CORP. Bundled with the excellent "Alien Vs. Predator" game, the system had localised manuals and instructions. This was a difficult territory for any western console to penetrate, and the Jaguar would ultimately sell in very small quantities. Then again, how is the mighty Microsoft fairing out in Japan with X-Box these days? That from this page There are 145 stores now...wow, only 25 back then? Well, what is a reasonable amount to assume they would have had? 100 per store, maybe? That's only 2500, but of course there are many other outlets in Japan, so I guess 15,000 COULD indeed be a reasonable estimate. Jay, after posting a link to your website over here, your collection has received much praise! Feel free to drop in and say hi if you like, I'm sure your input on the topic would be much appreciated. Feel free to post a link to your website under the "collection pictures" section, too! p.s. I hope you don't mind me linking to your site in the thread. If you have any problems with that, contact me and I will of course remove it. Oh, glad to hear the ROMs are nice and safe! Yeah, that could well have been a bedspread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysmith2000 #10 Posted August 17, 2004 In December 1994, Atari announced that the Jaguar would be sold through all 25 TOYS "R" US Inc. stores in Japan plus other outlets selected by its distributor and sales representative, MUMIN CORP. Bundled with the excellent "Alien Vs. Predator" game, the system had localised manuals and instructions. This was a difficult territory for any western console to penetrate, and the Jaguar would ultimately sell in very small quantities. Then again, how is the mighty Microsoft fairing out in Japan with X-Box these days? That from this page There are 145 stores now...wow, only 25 back then? Well, what is a reasonable amount to assume they would have had? 100 per store, maybe? That's only 2500, but of course there are many other outlets in Japan, so I guess 15,000 COULD indeed be a reasonable estimate. Jay, after posting a link to your website over here, your collection has received much praise! Feel free to drop in and say hi if you like, I'm sure your input on the topic would be much appreciated. Feel free to post a link to your website under the "collection pictures" section, too! p.s. I hope you don't mind me linking to your site in the thread. If you have any problems with that, contact me and I will of course remove it. Oh, glad to hear the ROMs are nice and safe! Yeah, that could well have been a bedspread Hey EC, I just popped in over at that link. No problem posting the link to my site. I'm glad it stirred up some conversation. I'll get registered over there and join the discussion. Jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eggplant_casserole #11 Posted August 18, 2004 Cool, see you over there Oh, I err also hotlinked the image of the Japanese box directly in that thread... let me know if you'd rather I didn't! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysmith2000 #12 Posted August 18, 2004 Cool, see you over there Oh, I err also hotlinked the image of the Japanese box directly in that thread... let me know if you'd rather I didn't! No problem bud, see you over there. I'm at work now (working really hard as you can see), so I'll register tonight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atarifan49 #13 Posted August 18, 2004 I was having a discussion with some friends on Japanese Jaguars. Some believed the system was never released over there, others proved that Toys 'r' Us were to stock it in all stores there. Some said they have seen Jaguars there, but assumed them to be imports. What is the real answer? Were systems exported from the US to Japan, or did they have their own systems? What did the boxes look like? And to add to some of the discussion on this: Telegames has been selling these Japanese Jaguar systems. I think they've been asking about $169 for them. But this was a price I saw over a year ago. Might have changed. And from what I understand is that the Japanese version of the Jag didn't fare too well because it was a "made in the USA" system. Japanese are extremely loyal to their country's brand of items when it comes to video game consoles. I think the "made in the USA" logo on the box hurt Atari in trying to market the system there. Glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justclaws #14 Posted August 21, 2004 What is the real answer? Were systems exported from the US to Japan, or did they have their own systems? What did the boxes look like? The same applies to French Jaguars, for me. I have been told by French friends that the French Jaguar is a SCART only unit (because the French TV system uses SECAM, almost uniquely), and I wonder if these units had custom packaging like the Japanese ones. I would have expected yes, due to French rules about foreign language. Clearly we have a good French fan base here on AA, can somebody say? The units would work with 50hz PAL settings for games, I understand, but I really would like to confirm if any French manual/packaging exists! Cheers, JustClaws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TXG/MNX #15 Posted August 23, 2004 What is the real answer? Were systems exported from the US to Japan, or did they have their own systems? What did the boxes look like? The same applies to French Jaguars, for me. I have been told by French friends that the French Jaguar is a SCART only unit (because the French TV system uses SECAM, almost uniquely), and I wonder if these units had custom packaging like the Japanese ones. I would have expected yes, due to French rules about foreign language. Clearly we have a good French fan base here on AA, can somebody say? The units would work with 50hz PAL settings for games, I understand, but I really would like to confirm if any French manual/packaging exists! Cheers, JustClaws. Do the SECAM jags have a different OS then the PAL/NTSC ? Just wondering Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
video*game*source #16 Posted August 24, 2004 What is the real answer? Were systems exported from the US to Japan, or did they have their own systems? What did the boxes look like? The same applies to French Jaguars, for me. I have been told by French friends that the French Jaguar is a SCART only unit (because the French TV system uses SECAM, almost uniquely), and I wonder if these units had custom packaging like the Japanese ones. I bought a palette of jag systems back in 98 from France. They were all 50 hz with french instructions, 2 pin ac adapter, scart cable and no rf output. On the box a US flag and maybe some french text. Don't know anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justclaws #17 Posted August 24, 2004 Hello, I bought a palette of jag systems back in 98 from France. They were all 50 hz with french instructions, 2 pin ac adapter, scart cable and no rf output. On the box a US flag and maybe some french text. Don't know anymore. So do you have any left? I guess not. :-( I think I'd really like a French Jag to complete my Jag collection, and it would be a final test for my "Team Franglais" binaries too. Do you remember was it all Germans then that bought French Jags? Cheers, JustClaws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
video*game*source #18 Posted August 24, 2004 So do you have any left? I guess not. :-( I think I'd really like a French Jag to complete my Jag collection, and it would be a final test for my "Team Franglais" binaries too. Do you remember was it all Germans then that bought French Jags? No more left, sorry! And I think I was the only one who imported Jags from France. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vanadium #19 Posted August 25, 2004 I just popped in over at that link. No problem posting the link to my site. I'm glad it stirred up some conversation. I'll get registered over there and join the discussion. Jason You should...it's a favorite haunt of mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites