New Atari Console

[The Helper]

I wish they would have done it for the Jaguar

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/GAM...ml&SECTION=HOME

 

Pass this on guys to the proper forums would you?

[Rocko]

http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.p...7044&highlight=

[vb_master]

Listing of topics with 'flashback' in it.

Search, people, search!

[The Helper]

Ooops, my bad - admins feel free to delete this post.

[Gunstar]

I wish they would have done it for the Jaguar

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/GAM...ml&SECTION=HOME

 

Pass this on guys to the proper forums would you?

 

Yes, that's pretty cool. I'll be getting one myself. As for re-release something similiar with Jaguar hardware, Give them time, I think this is just a foreshadowing of things to come. It's not quite old enough to be a classic release yet I don't think anyway. It's official that Atari Inc. is back again as a console manufacturer, and not just software publishing house. Sure, it's just a stand-alone console, similiar to the Atari and other all-in-one joysticks that have been released, but this isn't a licensed product, it's a console from Atari themselves. It's really Deja' vu in a sense; Atari started out as a stand-alone console manufacturer, and now we have a reborn Atari, Inc. doing it again. It could be stealth, "under the radar", way Atari is getting into the console business again; start out with cheap classics and once established as a console manufacturer, even a retro one, they just might release a NEW console eventually (probably a while away though). They just might re-release the Jaguar as a stand-alone unit yet, with just Atari's Top hits built-in (T2K, AvP, I.S., Cybermorph, etc., etc. etc.). Who knows. It will all depend greatly on the success of the 'Atari Flashback' console though, I'm sure. Plus, just the fact that they are releasing this, proves that the licensed all-in-one Atari Joystick was a success, and they wanted to continue with that success in-house and officially bring retro-gaming back into the mass-market and out of the mere curiosity catagory that the stand-alone joysticks are/were.

[Paolo]

Let's just hope that they don't step in the classic area with an 'all your classic stuff is belong to us' approach. Otherwise, we can kiss good-bye all the achievements of the classic gamers community

[Atariboy]

One problem with your Jaguar theory, these are being marketed primarily off nostalgia.

 

Someone who hasn't played a Atari 2600 in 20 years are the one's they're hoping will pick this up in the thousands.

 

Do you really see a Jaguar one being able to be sold off its nostalgia value in the millions that some of these tv games things have?

 

I'd count on seeing a brand new Atari 7800 console with a cartridge port and 2600/7800 games being released anyday day. Infogrames isn't interested in selling 250 of something.

[Atariboy]

Well I screwed up that last part, lets just say I don't think a Jaguar thing is likely.

 

They might not even be able to recoup their investment in getting the Aliens Vs. Predators license in sales of one.

 

Outside of the few that have played the system and are the one's that go to places like this board and buy 80 dollar new Jaguar games over a decade later, the Jaguar has a very bad reputation.

 

It would be like expecting a new Jakks Pacific TV Games N64 console with Superman 64 to sell in the millions. Sadly the Jaguar's reputation with the public isn't that much better than that horrible N64 game. Its unfortunate, since the Jaguar had some really excellent games, just most people don't realize that.

[SauceCaptain]

Very cool indeed. I hope they remake the jag because it might finally get the love it deserves. It would have to be cheap though, does anybody know how much it would cost to pruduce a jag unit today? Like a smaller version with the same cartridges. I'm thinking about what sega did with the genesis 3, it used all the same stuff but the new console was tiny and was only 20.00 new retail. If they could do the same with the jag, I think people would buy it.

By the way am I the only one who thinks the new "atari", telegames shouldn't have used the atari name?

[Atariboy]

Telegames doesn't call itself Atari.

[Tyrant]

I doubt highly that anyone would buy a Jaguar now unless you paid them. Yes we all love it, but face it, its not old enough or popular enough to be a classic system, and there's no way on earth it can compete with anything on the market today. Should the new Atari try to re-release the Jaguar it would show they have truely lost the plot, unless it was a very limeted thing just for us, the fans of the old system, which I highly doubt they'd do somehow.

 

The Jag's commercial lifetime is long since past, its still a great machine, but its part of history, and its future is never likely to see anyone making a profit from it again.

[Dan Iacovelli]

Theres another thing about Atari not going to do a jaguar thing:

Hasbro after they brought Atari from JTS , they announced I think it was 1999 that they declaired the Jag an open system which means they prob don't have the rights to it any more.

but I might be wrong though

[Paolo]

I thought they declared it as an open platform, meaning that you can write a game for it without asking them the permission of publishing it.

[Gunstar]

@ Atariboy

 

I never said a Jaguar remake/remarket is likely, I know the odds against it, but it's not out of the realm of possibility, it may be on the Jag's 20th aniversary too, if it's ever done. But the 7800, which this console is modeled after, and inludes 1/4 7800 games, was also a miserable failure on the market like the Jag, yet they are basically re-releasing it. It does have the advantage of being 2600 compatible which is the real commercial classic, so why not just re-release the 2600/junior with only 2600 games built in? Why release a system that looks and acts very similiar to the original market failure? Becuase of updated 2600 classics that got the 7800 treatment? Maybe, but Planet Smashers isn't one of them. Besides, the Jag has classic updates too. So basically, if you think about it, the 7800 was a commercial failure, and the controllers where notoriously bad design, or at least that's the reputation, Sound familiar (kinda like the Jag?), yet they've re-released it, so why not the Jag? but the 7800/2600 and even Jaguar aren't the only things Atari, Inc. has...

[justclaws]

Hello,

Has anybody got one of these yet, and any comments?

[RIDICULOUS SPECULTION]

I wonder if it's a 7800 on a chip, if so, is it hackable to

take other cartridges? Maybe it would fit in a Jag cartridge,

as a special add-on, with shared RAM to upload games it it.

[/RIDICULOUS SPECULTION]

Cheers,

JustClaws.

[justclaws]

[RIDICULOUS SPECULTION]

SPECULTION being a typo for "speculation". :-(

[Atariman]

I don't think these things have made it out just yet, have they? I thought they had a release date of November... can anyone give a better date?

[Flojomojo]

Gamestop has a date of November 4th. I want one now so I can forget about the election. I want to regress into my old Atari-playin' kid self. BLEEP BLEEP BLOOOP WOOT WOOT WOOT GRONK

[Flojomojo]

Looks like it's been pushed back to November 8th for Nov 9th availability, same day as Halo 2, Tron 2.0 for XBOX, Everquest 2, and Need for Speed Underground 2 ... and a week before Atari Anthology and Half Life 2 launch.

 

As obsessed as I am with this thing, I think I'll hold off and play with Mario DS instead.