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I picked up a pile of commons the other day (25 games for a buck each at the local thrift). 90% of them ended being up dupes (and hey -- they could be YOUR dupes at OKGE!), but one caught my eye.

 

As I was looking at each one to determine whether they were dupes or not, I noticed the end Joust label read "Joust P". The P is smaller and to the right a bit of the word Joust, but it's printed on the label and in the same color and font (but slightly smaller) than the word JOUST.

 

I'm not a huge Atari collector, I've only got about a hundred or so loose carts, but just scanning my shelves I didn't see any other game in my collection with a letter out to the side. And as we all know, P stands for "P"rototype which got me excited. It also stands for "P"robably not which I'm assuming is the case, but I'm still wondering what on earth that P means!

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Hmmm, Tempest could tell you if it were a proto or not, he's smart like that. :) :P I think the P stands for, POWER because j00 got teh powar!

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what about 'P' for PAL? instead of being for Prototype

 

D'oh, hadn't thought of that. I'll have to slap her in the ol' woody tonight and see if it's PAL or not.

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what about 'P' for PAL? instead of being for Prototype

 

Thats exactly what it means ive had at least 5 carts in the past with that on it

only mine was a small black sticker with a white P on the back. ;)

 

Usually protos will have no lables, homemade looking or lab loaner lables

and in some cicumstances, NO cart at all! :o

 

Sorry to give you the bad news that this isnt a proto, but keep looking because

its small things like that, that may net you a proto in the future. :)

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The P of Pal stands beside the game name on the endlabel mostly when it is a Atari picture label. Sometimes this is also used on silver label carts.

Mostly there's a P sticker on the back of the cart indicating that it is a Pal game.

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5 ways of telling (from memory) if it's a PAL Atari-manufactured cart:

 

1) It has PAL stamped in big letters on the front. I think I've only seen Combat like this.

2) It has a P in the model number, i.e. CX-2622-P (text label) or CX26120 (red label). Note that the rare-in-NTSC carts like Motorodeo, Ikari Warriors and BMX Airmaster (I think all 3 of them) tend not to bother with the P which to me implies they were never really meant for the US market.

3) It has a small P on the end label. This is only the silver label variations I think.

4) A sticker on the back of the cart has a white P on a black square. This occurs on silver labels and picture labels mostly IIRC, but sometimes on others too I think.

5) The colours are wrong. :) There's no way of telling with some carts - though of course many of them may be where the sticker's fallen off. :)

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There are a few titles I know of that have the P on the end label. In fact I think I have more than one for sale. I know I have Berserk, but my brain isn't functioning at work to recall if I have others. Check out the label variation list on my website to see what others may have the P on the end label.

 

Phil

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3) It has a small P on the end label. This is only the silver label variations I think.

 

I think this is the one that applies, as Joust is a silver label. Thanks for the info, fellas!

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But Joust is not the only one with a P on the end label. I know Centipede has had it too and is a Silver label. Though Berserk isn't a silver label. I think Galaxian may also be one.

 

Phil

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I've got the following games with the Pal marker on the endlabel:

Missile Command (picture label)

Pac-man (picture label)

Ms. Pac-man (silver label)

E.T. (silver label)

Space invaders (picture label)

Most others just have a Pal marker on the back of the cart, and some even haven't a Pal marker on them (but then again they might have come lose)

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I'm sorry, but we are not wrong. Why the game says it is a NTSC game I don't know, could be mistyped. Maybe it is a label fault, made at the factory, or it is just a NTSC game dat isn't affected or alterd when played on a Pal machine.

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I have one game with a 'P' and it's Video Pinball (Atari Picture). It's definitely PAL, because the bottom of the screen gets completely cutoff on my TV..... making it a much more challenging game now. I originally thought it stood for 'poop in pants', but after much consideration, I have ruled that out.

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I have one game with a 'P' and it's Video Pinball (Atari Picture). It's definitely PAL, because the bottom of the screen gets completely cutoff on my TV..... making it a much more challenging game now. I originally thought it stood for 'poop in pants', but after much consideration, I have ruled that out.

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So you mean this?http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=922

 

That says it is indeed NTSC but it has the Pal P, so what this is, is a factory

printing mistake that gave Pal lables to NTSC games. ;)

 

Unless someone made a mistake with the list and it should be listed PAL? :?

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Ok, it pal or a printing error. I have many as im from a pal country, but a few are ntsc believe it or not. Many carts have printing errors like Ataai and aatari, the list go's on. Either its a pal cart or label. If someone finds it a proto then ive got alot of protos :D

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Argh link didnt work stupid disabled edit button!!!! :x  

 

here it is

http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=922

 

I believe that page is in err The P on end label is give away to PAL status. Maybe on rare printing errors a NTSC cart ends up with the P but not very common at all. I've only ever seen them on PAL carts, I have one here now with P on end label it too is PAL.

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It was a printing error. I have the same cart Joust cart. If it works on a TV that doesn't like PAL, it is NTSC. I've had mine dumped. ;) BTW, found mine in a pawn shop with 75 other NTSC games.

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